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    Posted: 16 August 2012 at 1:48pm
Are there any other folded horns out there, approx same size as Martin WSX, that can extend to 45hz @ -3db in pairs, like WSX ?

Previously asked about modding 186Horn to 7ft Length, but no interest.
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the WSX is a pretty good attempt there, will be a pain in the ass to improve it..
maybe the 186horn combined with new drivers that can be pushed a little bit more on the low end would be a solution?
i think there has been some decent evolution of drivers since rog created that horn.. maybe we can make some use out of it? got to calculate some stuff.. but i'm still a newb when it comes to horn-calculating so if some of the "gurus" could step in? :)
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hey

yeah if your looking for a horn about the size of a WSX, that plays about the same range as a WSX, then whats up with a WSX?

Loaded with a V18 is is supposedly even better than the proper Martin version, a stack of 4 or more really does some damage.

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Originally posted by ewbxbassfreak ewbxbassfreak wrote:

the WSX is a pretty good attempt there, will be a pain in the ass to improve it..
maybe the 186horn combined with new drivers that can be pushed a little bit more on the low end would be a solution?
i think there has been some decent evolution of drivers since rog created that horn.. maybe we can make some use out of it? got to calculate some stuff.. but i'm still a newb when it comes to horn-calculating so if some of the "gurus" could step in? :)


I'm thinking of just extending 186 horn length from 5.5ft to 7ft.

Should be do-able in cab 1220H 600W 900D
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Originally posted by kevinmcdonough kevinmcdonough wrote:

hey

yeah if your looking for a horn about the size of a WSX, that plays about the same range as a WSX, then whats up with a WSX?

Loaded with a V18 is is supposedly even better than the proper Martin version, a stack of 4 or more really does some damage.

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Yep, know all about WSX.

Problem is, no point trying to play this cab inside, unless venue is huge, and crowd is distance from stacks.
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How about the earlier Martin F1b? its a shorter horn path than the WSX but doesn't seem to suffer the problems that the WSX sometimes has indoors. Nice little bin actually, allways been happy with them.
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Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

Are there any other folded horns out there, approx same size as Martin WSX, that can extend to 45hz @ -3db in pairs, like WSX ?

Previously asked about modding 186Horn to 7ft Length, but no interest.

Surely the invader fits this question? or am i looking at the wrong plots Confused
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Originally posted by Tocooltom Tocooltom wrote:

Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

Are there any other folded horns out there, approx same size as Martin WSX, that can extend to 45hz @ -3db in pairs, like WSX ?

Previously asked about modding 186Horn to 7ft Length, but no interest.

Surely the invader fits this question? or am i looking at the wrong plots Confused


Was told Invader had habit of munching V18-1000s, and couldn't do < 50hz in pairs ?
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i thought the fane driver was the best one for it?

to be honest i havent heard the invaders with just 2, always been 4 or more
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Originally posted by Tocooltom Tocooltom wrote:

i thought the fane driver was the best one for it?

to be honest i havent heard the invaders with just 2, always been 4 or more


I mentioned pairs, because I know if pair can do 45hz @ -3db, then will be all gravy 4+.

However just read, for ALL long flh, pointless for venues of < 1k capacity.

Does that also mean crowd also need to be at least 15M away outdoors ?
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Lev,

horns are not the right cabinet for the job if only using pairs for small indoor gigs. You can usually get them to work ok, but you would get more reliable results using high-power, modern drivers in reflex boxes. A ported/hybrid horn might be a suitable alternative?

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I'm really, really tired of this nonsense that FLHs are totally useless inside.
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