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LOL, you know they would never do that. :-)
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Hogs should not be compared to scoops. Ever heard house music through reggae optimised scoops? I have, it's lazy. Hogs do clean fast stuff with none of the dirtyness of normal large ish chamber scoops. This IS NOT a criticism of scoops, reggae sounds great though them, they are more of an instrument in reggae today. There is however nowadays a crossover, EDM such as D&B and Dubstep has scoop friendly content, so as long as the kicks can keep up normal scoops sound good. Just not in a techno, house type environment where Hogs do fine (as well as fine in some reggae systems to taste). IMHO
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There was someone who measured spl of various scoops in one sitting including hog,rx18 etc.
They all came within 1-2 db spl difference. Cant find the thread.

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Originally posted by mobiele eenheid mobiele eenheid wrote:

And if you want to make me happy, show a measurement (of said scoops vs. hog's).

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If you play them all flat then maybe. But nobody does. We play scoops to their advantage.
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Originally posted by nickyburnell nickyburnell wrote:

Hogs should not be compared to scoops. Ever heard house music through reggae optimised scoops? I have, it's lazy. Hogs do clean fast stuff with none of the dirtyness of normal large ish chamber scoops. This IS NOT a criticism of scoops, reggae sounds great though them, they are more of an instrument in reggae today. There is however nowadays a crossover, EDM such as D&B and Dubstep has scoop friendly content, so as long as the kicks can keep up normal scoops sound good. Just not in a techno, house type environment where Hogs do fine (as well as fine in some reggae systems to taste). IMHO

You are comparing chalk and cheese large chamber and small. Compare the hog to other small chamber scoops. And yes have done many house nights with small chamber scoops :) even did lovelite luton house room with large chamber scoops although that was deep soulful house with bassline as good as reggae at times!
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Originally posted by nickyburnell nickyburnell wrote:

Hogs should not be compared to scoops. Ever heard house music through reggae optimised scoops? I have, it's lazy. Hogs do clean fast stuff with none of the dirtyness of normal large ish chamber scoops. This IS NOT a criticism of scoops, reggae sounds great though them, they are more of an instrument in reggae today. There is however nowadays a crossover, EDM such as D&B and Dubstep has scoop friendly content, so as long as the kicks can keep up normal scoops sound good. Just not in a techno, house type environment where Hogs do fine (as well as fine in some reggae systems to taste). IMHO
 
Clap, agree here Nick, it's all down to tuning and taste; I prefer to use a few more bass cabs than some and play them within their range instead of thrashing them. Hogs are hybrids and like Nick's said, should not be compared to scoops.


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Only difference between HOG scoop & conventional Scoop is extra fold & tilted driver baffle, for larger horn mouth.


Is still a Scoop, nothing hybrid about it.

Only HOGS I have heard that I rated, are the Mitchigan Vibes 21".

Not just scaled up, but implemented with some thought, I know, as we spoke while he was drawing up plan.


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If its a hybrid then what is it?? A scoop/???
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Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

Only difference between HOG scoop & conventional Scoop is extra fold & tilted driver baffle, for larger horn mouth.


Is still a Scoop, nothing hybrid about it.

Only HOGS I have heard that I rated, are the Mitchigan Vibes 21".

Not just scaled up, but implemented with some thought, I know, as we spoke while he was drawing up plan.




Yes Ray but what music was playing through them?

@Luton yes, that's why I said medium/large chamber. Agreed small chamber can do house, as can Hogs :)

Lets not degrade this into whether it's hybrid or whatever. It's a speaker cab that is labeled a scoop that lots of reggae guys don't rate and lots of non reggae guys do



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Its not degrading you're the one who said its a hybrid lol i'd just like to know what to cabs its a hybrid of as i never realised.
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