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dylan-penguinmedia 
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 Posted: 05 March 2012 at 1:49pm |
And how would you 'breaker properly' this? |
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haloweenhamster
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Posted: 05 March 2012 at 4:27pm |
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A breaker is used to protect equipment so you would use a breaker rated below the rating of cables/connectors in this case
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dylan-penguinmedia
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Posted: 05 March 2012 at 4:54pm |
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But they're nOt designed to be used where you intend to cross phases and they will be your 'tester'. Especially if you're taking your rig to venues where you have no knowledge of the upstream system.
Give Schneider, Hager, ABB a call and ask them if their kit is ok for this and they'll tell you nothing should be switched on without the correct testing procedure followed. Power off tests followed by the power on ones. And if you do this a few times, there's a possibility you will damage the breakers and one time they won't trip in time. Then it starts blowing things upstream - a venue would love their service head cutouts blowing on a Saturday night. Edited by dylan-penguinmedia - 05 March 2012 at 4:55pm |
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Posted: 05 March 2012 at 9:50pm |
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I can't believe I am reading this, don't worry about breakers , phases, or anything else, worry about the bloke with a 32amp plug to power con that plug into your peice of crap substandard, comedy junk distro and get a belt and quote rightly sues you for not having the IQ you were born with!
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Posted: 05 March 2012 at 10:02pm |
Never seen a breaker with moron in the rating....... 
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Posted: 06 March 2012 at 12:08am |
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So on touch proof connector protected with an rcd people can get a shock? News to me
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2x court top horn 2" + 1" loaded
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Posted: 06 March 2012 at 8:38am |
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Here we go again..........
 .IT'S MAINS! IF YOU ARE NOT A QUALIFIED ELECTRICIAN DO NOT MESS AROUND! HIRE A PRO... |
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DOJO MEDIA.
PA HIRE/ RECORDING STUDIOS/ BACKLINE HIRE. |
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haloweenhamster
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Posted: 06 March 2012 at 11:34am |
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Unless 17th has changed everything then ill carry on
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2x court top horn 2" + 1" loaded
2x court mid horn 12" loaded 2x ass mt1200 10" + 2" + bullets 2x court W bins 15" loaded 1x/3x TAS sub 18" loaded |
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dylan-penguinmedia
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Posted: 06 March 2012 at 12:47pm |
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You might want to have a bedtime read of this one too....
http://www.7909.org.uk/outline_of_7909.htm |
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Posted: 06 March 2012 at 2:14pm |
Consider this carefully..... You have your panel of alike 32A powercons (ins and outs) and pick up a 32A plug to powercon lead and plug it in to the mains. Now, someone else also picks up a 32A plug to powercon lead and plugs it in - the pins on this 32A plug are now LIVE! If this person contacts the active and neutral pins without forming a path to earth, then the RCD will not trip and they will be fried! |
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Posted: 06 March 2012 at 2:55pm |
I can't believe I had to read almost 3 full pages of complete crap before someone (YOU!) pointed out the obvious. IF YOU DON'T ***KNOW*** IT, DON'T SAY IT!! It's pretty damn obvious that a connector which is described as an OUTlet should not be used as an INlet (or vice-versa)... Anyone who even questions this kind of logic seriously shouldn't be allowed to touch anything carrying more than 80v. If I was in a venue and found anyone, even in another room (completely unrelated to where I was working), with a "distro" with that kind of incorrect design I would physically remove it from the venue (by force) and destroy it in the street.
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Posted: 06 March 2012 at 4:11pm |
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Do we actually know of any SP member (or third party) to have died from messing about with electrics?
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