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    Posted: 27 March 2015 at 5:21pm
hi guys i got hold of an amp  soundstandard l 3.6 its fitted with an 32 amp blue plug i need to run it on 13 amp is there a 32amp socket to 13 amp socket converter ??  so i can check its working  cheers Smile
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Make one?

13A plug - 1m of 1.5mm2 3 core flex - 32A outlet.

Worst case 13A fuse pops if you draw too much, but will allow you to test. Perfectly legal, just totally pointless, unless you are doing something "special" as in your case.
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cheers Tongue what about if i want to use it do i need a distro ?? 
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looking at the power output of this [2x 1250w rms @ 4ohm].... id suspect the power draw is never going to top 13A, thus the 32A ceeform is utterly pointless and you could simply stick a 13A plug on and carry on as normal. Thumbs Up



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To run it at full power, then, assuming the 32A socket is required by the amp, and fitted by factory, then yes, something able to supply it 32A, i.e. a distro fed from a 32A or larger supply is required.

Is the 32A factory fit? Looking at manufacturers website, it is 3.6KW, bridged at 4ohm, for 40ms Burst 1% THD, at 1KHz.

That implies it would probably be fine of a 13A plug, worst case 16A Cee. 32A looks over the top for even a traditional Transformer amp of this size.

As a comparison, I run RMX4050 of a 13A plug top. It claims 1/8 current draw (typical maxl, slight clip) of 7.3A, for around 2 x 2KW.

Make sure it is not set for US voltage (110V, rather than our 220-240V). At US 110V, it will draw twice the current, which could be 15A+ @ 110V.
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Originally posted by mk2_ginger_biscuit69 mk2_ginger_biscuit69 wrote:

looking at the power output of this [2x 1250w rms @ 4ohm].... id suspect the power draw is never going to top 13A, thus the 32A ceeform is utterly pointless and you could simply stick a 13A plug on and carry on as normal. Thumbs Up






the cable is too thick for a plug LOL
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Originally posted by MattStolton MattStolton wrote:

To run it at full power, then, assuming the 32A socket is required by the amp, and fitted by factory, then yes, something able to supply it 32A, i.e. a distro fed from a 32A or larger supply is required.

Is the 32A factory fit? Looking at manufacturers website, it is 3.6KW, bridged at 4ohm, for 40ms Burst 1% THD, at 1KHz.

That implies it would probably be fine of a 13A plug, worst case 16A Cee. 32A looks over the top for even a traditional Transformer amp of this size.

As a comparison, I run RMX4050 of a 13A plug top. It claims 1/8 current draw (typical maxl, slight clip) of 7.3A, for around 2 x 2KW.

Make sure it is not set for US voltage (110V, rather than our 220-240V). At US 110V, it will draw twice the current, which could be 15A+ @ 110V.


it looks as if it was made that way Smile
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Yeah, 2.5mm2 in a BS1363 13A plug, is, as Shaggers has so often recited, is a PAT fail.

However, 2.5mm into a 16A or powercon does go, and then knock up a 13A - 1.5mm 3 core - Outlet is simples.

If it has 4mm or larger, very odd. Pushes the theory of American Voltage (hence huge current draw)
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it is 4mm or bigger  it say 240 v / 250 v  50 hz / 60 hz on the back of the amp Confused
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Originally posted by MattStolton MattStolton wrote:

Yeah, 2.5mm2 in a BS1363 13A plug, is, as Shaggers has so often recited, is a PAT fail.


..why?... i can get the bleeder in there. im not being argumentitive just wanted to know why.


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Because the terminals and cord clamp are only designed for 1.5mm2

Extracted from BS 1363-1:1995 and A4:2012

Provision shall be made for the entry and effective clamping without bending of 2-core and 3-core flexible cords for rewirable plugs as given in Table 11, Table 12, Table 13, Table 26 and Table 27 of BS 6500:2000, having nominal conductor cross-sectional areas not exceeding 1.5 mm2.


If you want or need to use 2.5mm2 you should be using an
BS EN 60309 connector.... i.e. ceeform


Edit: Due to not being able to spell!!


Edited by APW - 27 March 2015 at 7:30pm
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Originally posted by APW APW wrote:

Because the terminals and cord clamp are only designed for 1.5mm2

Extracted from BS 1363-1:1995 and A4:2012

Provision shall be made for the entry and effective clamping without bending of 2-core and 3-core flexible cords for rewirable plugs as given in Table 11, Table 12, Table 13, Table 26 and Table 27 of BS 6500:2000, having nominal conductor cross-sectional areas not exceeding 1.5 mm2.


If you want or need to use 2.5mm2 you should be using an
BS EN 60309 connector.... i.e. ceeform


Edit: Due to not being able to spell!!


...these tables you speak of, are they coffee tables or bedside tables? lol

just pulling ya leg, thank you for the quote. i wont remember the quote but i will remember for the future and promise my best to stop shoving 2.5mm2 cable into 13A plug tops...... well i'll promise to try to remember at least. Big smileBig smile


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