http://forum.speakerplans.com/ Fri, 24 May 2013 03:10:49 +0000 Fri, 10 May 2013 10:18:50 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.15 360 forum.speakerplans.com/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=65235 http://forum.speakerplans.com/forum_images/splans.gif http://forum.speakerplans.com/ http://forum.speakerplans.com/scoop-compatible-drivers_topic65235_post778023.html#778023 Author: tv00
Subject: 65235
Posted: 10 May 2013 at 10:18am

Did the EBP calculation disappear from the list?
-I thought this spec was most important for mid-horns?
The t/s specs are certainly a little confusing! The numbers are abstract and you slowly get to understand what they really mean as you get to test a hundred different drivers.
The T/S specs doesn't even say all and specs are not allways measured the same way freq / watts / preconditioning etc.
A new standard of T/S specs should arrive one day I guess?
Once a saw some suggestions for this, just don't remember where now.
]]> Fri, 10 May 2013 10:18:50 +0000 http://forum.speakerplans.com/scoop-compatible-drivers_topic65235_post778023.html#778023 http://forum.speakerplans.com/scoop-compatible-drivers_topic65235_post777881.html#777881 Author: RealitySound
Subject: 65235
Posted: 09 May 2013 at 7:25pm

JR.junior wrote: PD1852!

added!
]]> Thu, 09 May 2013 19:25:13 +0000 http://forum.speakerplans.com/scoop-compatible-drivers_topic65235_post777881.html#777881 http://forum.speakerplans.com/scoop-compatible-drivers_topic65235_post777873.html#777873 Author: JR.junior
Subject: 65235
Posted: 09 May 2013 at 7:01pm

PD1852!]]> Thu, 09 May 2013 19:01:59 +0000 http://forum.speakerplans.com/scoop-compatible-drivers_topic65235_post777873.html#777873 http://forum.speakerplans.com/scoop-compatible-drivers_topic65235_post777866.html#777866 Author: TONY.A.S.S.
Subject: 65235
Posted: 09 May 2013 at 6:44pm

I like the sound and the customers certainly like the sound so how can I not recommend the B and C 18SW115.]]> Thu, 09 May 2013 18:44:08 +0000 http://forum.speakerplans.com/scoop-compatible-drivers_topic65235_post777866.html#777866 http://forum.speakerplans.com/scoop-compatible-drivers_topic65235_post777763.html#777763 Author: RealitySound
Subject: 65235
Posted: 09 May 2013 at 1:46pm

                        XMAX(7+)/ BL(24+)/ QES(-.35)/ QTS (-.35)/ VAS(-360)/FS(-35)/ RMS/GBP/USD  

(18sound) 
18W1000                7             24.7        .24           .23               268            35     1000W       $300
18LW1250               9             23.6        .28           .27              268             35     1000W        ?
18LW1400               9             24.7       .31            .29              297             31    1000W       $360
18LW2400              9.5           25.6        .32           .31              230             35     1200W      $330
18W2000                 7            27.1        .26            .25              230             37    1200W       240E
18NLW9000            14             27          .32            .31             206             34     1800W      380P
18NLW9600            14            30          .29            .28              149             34    1800W       $700
18ND9300              9.5           24.4       .29            .28              316             30     1000W       $500
18NLW9400            9.5           26          .28            .26              268             33     1200W

B&C TBX-46             9            25.8        .33            .31             227             34     1000Wdiscontinued
B&C TBX100            9             25.5       .37            .35              212             34    1200W        $316
B&C18PZB100          8              26        .25            .24              297             30     700W         $315
B&CPS76                  7             25.8      .29            .27                                39     600W          $200
B&C18NW100           9              28        .27             .26             252             31     1200W       $400+
B&C18SW115          14           30.3        .32             .3              187             32     1700W        $582

Beyma18G50           9            28.8       .334           .325            212             40     750W         $380
Beyma18G550         9             24.4       .385          .37              210             36     900W         $390
Beyma18P1000        8              26         .37            .36             245              32    1000W        $460
Beyma18p1200ND  9.5            26.3       .35            .34             198              37   1200W         $630
Beyma18SW1600Nd 10            29          .34           .33             205              32   1600W         $700

BMS18S430v2          8             23.5        .36           .34             262              31   1200W          304E 
BMS18N850v2          13           26.2        .36           .34             247            29.7   1200W         405Q

CelestionCF18VJD     9            30.54       .315         .305           164              33    1600W   330Q/$535
CelestionFTR184080 6            22.88        .29           .27             395             26    1000W         $250

Em Definimax4018  7.9            27         .36            .35             238              32    800W          $305
Em Impero18C        8.13         16.1        .35            .34            317              31.5 1200W         $300
Em OmegaproA&C   4.8           18.8       .32             .31             548             25     800W          $200
Em Sigma               6.1           22.1        .3              .29             441             28     650W         $170

EV-EVX180B           6.4            22.5        .29           .27              416             29     600W          $535

FaitalPro18xl1600     13            28.1       .37            .36             195.5           32     1600W        $600
FP18HP1020            9.5            28          .28            .27             207             35      1000W       $400
FP18HP1040            9.5           24.5         .35           .34             196             38      1000W        $400
FP18HP1060           12.45         24.8       .38             .37             175             35      1200W       $450

FANEcol-1500        12.75         32.75     .26             .25              175           33.5     1500W365Q/$590
FANEcolPrimeXS     12              22.4     .404            .385            257            33       1200W       $370
FaneCol18B             4              29.5      .207            .197            320          30.5      400W           ?
FaneCol18B600       7.2           25.25     .245            .236           354            29        600W
FaneCol18B800       7.2           25.25     .245            .236           354            32        800W
FANEcol18SB          8.25           24        .366            .346           199            36        1000W       $290
FANEcol18XB          7.5            25.9      .358            .337           236            33        1000W Q197$300

JBL 2242                  9             23.7      .29              .29             283            35         800W        $700

P-AudioSD18-1700N 7.5          33.7        .39            .38            88.6            44        1700W
P AudioSD18             5            35.8        .27            .26             264            33         800W

PD1850                 11.25          31        .22              .21             249            30        800W         Q335
PD1851                  12              31         .3              .29             182             34       1000W        Q359
PD1852                  12              32         .34            .33             129.1          40        1000W       Q398
PD186                    9              22.94     .326           .312            353             27       700W         Q193

PeaveyLOWMAX       8.25           25          .33            .32            295            33.5     1200W        $368
PeaveyLowRider       9.6           22.17      .356          .342            288           28.9      800W         $205


Radian2218NEO      21.3           29.85       .283         .257           329.4         31.4      1300W       $800

RCF,LF18G400          9              24.2        .29            .27             360            28        1000W       $435
RCF LF18X451         13.5           30.5        .29            .28             220            30        1800W      $500
RCF LF18N451         8.8             30.2        .25           .24             245             31       1500W      
RCF,LF18X400           9             24.2         .29           .27             360             28       1000W       $500
RCF,L18p200-N         9.8           23.1       .32            .31             380             28        800W        $365
RCF,L18P300            7.8           23.5         .34           .33             226             33       1000W       $390
RCF,LF18P400           9             24.2         .29           .27             360             28       1000W       $370
RCF LF18N401          8.8            27.8       .27           .26              257             32        1200W      $410
RCFLF18X401           11.5          26.5        .31           .30              274            30        1500W      $400

TC.SoundsLmsUltra5400 38.1        26.8        .34           .33             240.7         20.5      2000W
TC PRO 5100             31                          .25           .25            251            26.5      1000W      $1290

Turbomax 1500M3 12.75         35.39      .218          .208           184.95       28.59     1500W      Q320
Turbomax 1800      14.1          34.03      .201          .1944          233.57       25.43    1800W      Q300
TurbomaxB1000     12.5          24.56       .3951       .3694           238.44        30.7    1000W      Q227

VOID                     10.5            34.8       .22             .22              201            34       1000W      Q235

Wembly B Line        10             24.17       .26            .24              412            25        800W


Driver names in Blue tried & tested, Green are good, Red shows where the parameters have fallen outside the ideal specs a bit,..but driver will still work, just not as great as the others (green) for max spl. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions on how certain drivers sound in certain scoops,...so to each their own, horses for courses etc.  Purple is 'close enough' I will add to the list as time allows. Anyone with knowledge on particular drivers, or personal experience with a specific drivers performance in a particular scoop- pass it on. If there are any drivers that should be on here, let me know. This is a GUIDE. Nothing engraved in stone.




Edited by RealitySound - 18 May 2013 at 3:08am]]> Thu, 09 May 2013 13:46:18 +0000 http://forum.speakerplans.com/scoop-compatible-drivers_topic65235_post777763.html#777763 http://forum.speakerplans.com/scoop-compatible-drivers_topic65235_post777756.html#777756 Author: RealitySound
Subject: 65235
Posted: 09 May 2013 at 1:35pm

There is probably lost of drivers that are not on this list. If anyone notices that there is one that should have probably made the list, then by all means drop a line........
This list is a guide for people who haven't the foggiest about choosing a driver for a rear loaded horn, as which I once was. Knowledge has been passed on to me, and I am passing it on to the masses. The list is open to scrutiny.
Bless.
]]> Thu, 09 May 2013 13:35:40 +0000 http://forum.speakerplans.com/scoop-compatible-drivers_topic65235_post777756.html#777756 http://forum.speakerplans.com/scoop-compatible-drivers_topic65235_post777741.html#777741 Author: tv00
Subject: 65235
Posted: 09 May 2013 at 1:05pm

Ras Loud wrote: Maybe because 1800 W AES is much more than needed for a scoop?

Look at realitysounds post, he doesn't even list the x401, why? -Because it haven't got that high EBP I guess, this is not only a questin about watts, but more of a question about EBP, BL & Xmax.

By the way: you ALLWAYS need more power and sensivity right:-)
-Otherwise just build a refleks, they're much smaller and you wont need 6 a side to go down really low:-)
]]> Thu, 09 May 2013 13:05:42 +0000 http://forum.speakerplans.com/scoop-compatible-drivers_topic65235_post777741.html#777741 http://forum.speakerplans.com/scoop-compatible-drivers_topic65235_post752562.html#752562 Author: UpComingSound
Subject: 65235
Posted: 16 February 2013 at 7:45pm

if they fit in the super i guess they should work]]> Sat, 16 Feb 2013 19:45:14 +0000 http://forum.speakerplans.com/scoop-compatible-drivers_topic65235_post752562.html#752562 http://forum.speakerplans.com/scoop-compatible-drivers_topic65235_post752428.html#752428 Author: RealitySound
Subject: 65235
Posted: 16 February 2013 at 2:21am

Not that I know of.......
]]> Sat, 16 Feb 2013 02:21:24 +0000 http://forum.speakerplans.com/scoop-compatible-drivers_topic65235_post752428.html#752428 http://forum.speakerplans.com/scoop-compatible-drivers_topic65235_post752230.html#752230 Author: _Natty_
Subject: 65235
Posted: 15 February 2013 at 10:42am

there is no guide line likes this for a super?]]> Fri, 15 Feb 2013 10:42:55 +0000 http://forum.speakerplans.com/scoop-compatible-drivers_topic65235_post752230.html#752230