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Originally posted by QSS QSS wrote:

Originally posted by Joe Average Joe Average wrote:

The powersoft was immense, but at the money, not as good as cheaper amps although bloody loud.
Are you saying the powersoft wasn't as good because of the cost?
Thats a bit of a daft comment.
Of course I am not, I am saying that there are amps about that, although not as light, beautifully engineered or as powerful, that sound as musical as this one.
I love the engineering and styling of these amps, also they sound very impressive too but, unless I had unlimited funds, I couldn't justify having a rack full of em.


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Originally posted by tallmike tallmike wrote:

Hi Tony,
 
The listening tests were using the same heavy dubstep track for all amps. The amps were driving subs (4 Quakes per channel = 2 ohm load per channel). We used Rog's dB meter to measure the sound pressure with each amp.
 
For all the listening tests, the filters were:
 
Quakes
LPF out - 90hz L-R 24db
 
EMS-152s
HPF 90hz - out


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Standard Test
Manufacturer Model             Max dB
Void Infinite 8 v2 137.4
Powersoft K10 136.9
MC2 Audio E90 (Limiter Defeated) 136.5
FFA 10000 136.2
MC2 Audio E90 135.4
Crown 5000VZ 135.2
QSC PL380 135.0
Lab.gruppen FP6400 134.4
Yamaha T5N 134.4
Crest CA18 134.1
EV P3000 134.0
Matrix XP5000 133.7
Matrix XP6000 133.2
MC2 Audio MC1250 132.7
Turbosound (C-Audio) EPC 780 132.1
Peavey GPS 3400 131.8
Crest P8001 131.6
Camco Vortex 6 131.4
Matrix UKP2400 131.4
Behringer EP2500 131.4
Void Infinite X7 130.9
BST JMC 1600 130.2
Peavey 2600 130.2
Peavey CS800x 129.0
Matrix UKP 2100X 128.2
'Low Bass' (34Hz) test
Manufacturer Model             Max dB
FFA 10000 136.6
Void Infinite 8 v2 136.0
Powersoft K10 135.7
QSC PL380 135.6
MC2 E90 134.4
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I wonder why the XP5000 was higher than the XP6000...
Was it because the Xp6000 is not optimised for 2r operation...?
(although i didnt think the XP5000 was either..)
 
I know there is always limited time, so well done guys!
Maybe at another amp meet, a 4r test could be done. ..?
 
Thanks alot Mike Big smile
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Would I be correct in saying that the E90 has more than one limiter ? also would I be correct in saying that only one was disabled ? This is the feeling I got at the time but not knowing the amp, I couldn't comment at the time.
Once again, thanks to Mike for hosting and taking the time to collate and post figures and post.

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Splendid set of test figures there Mike. Clap

Was the Low bass test not done on 5000VZ/CA18?


Shame no one brought Inf7Mk2, I really do think this amp has suprises up its sleeve.


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so why was the new X7 below a ukp2400 and a EP2500??? 

the 7 series have always been 3-4k amps, wouldn't one expect more? 

also the camco results are utterly dissapointing. 
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and did no-one bring a infi8 v1? 

or would this been regarded as pointless by many?
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Originally posted by Saul Saul wrote:

so why was the new X7 below a ukp2400 and a EP2500??? 

the 7 series have always been 3-4k amps, wouldn't one expect more? 

also the camco results are utterly dissapointing. 



Maybe some of the 5000VZ and CA18 bashing will stop now.

Have heard Camco Vortex stuff on sub before, and did post what I thought.
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Originally posted by levyte357 levyte357 wrote:

 


Maybe some of the 5000VZ and CA18 bashing will stop now.

how do you mean? 

i think these two have always been pretty highly regarded by most. 
(in my books anyway)

When ever ive heard them ive been fairly happy. 
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Originally posted by levyte357 levyte357 wrote:

Originally posted by Saul Saul wrote:

so why was the new X7 below a ukp2400 and a EP2500??? 

the 7 series have always been 3-4k amps, wouldn't one expect more? 

also the camco results are utterly dissapointing. 



Maybe some of the 5000VZ and CA18 bashing will stop now.




Perhaps the "SMPS cant do sub" diatribes will too LOL
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Originally posted by Sounds_d_b Sounds_d_b wrote:

Originally posted by levyte357 levyte357 wrote:

Originally posted by Saul Saul wrote:

so why was the new X7 below a ukp2400 and a EP2500??? 

the 7 series have always been 3-4k amps, wouldn't one expect more? 

also the camco results are utterly dissapointing. 



Maybe some of the 5000VZ and CA18 bashing will stop now.




Perhaps the "SMPS cant do sub" diatribes will too LOL


I stopped doing that ages ago, after hearing Lab gruppens "fattened up" with parametrics..

Knew from 2 years ago, K10 is "the" lightweight amp. Just didn't know it was "that" strong.
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