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    Posted: 16 June 2009 at 8:16am
Hello,

after lurking on the forums for some time I decided to post my take on the 12 volt sound system :) It seems many people have had the same idea this year LOL

Here's my system on last weekends party:






and some video from the first test run:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FszZDbvLKE

The drivers are peerless xxls12 car sub on a 135liter oversized reflex box tuned to around 35hz, mid is p.audio hp-10w on a 14l sealed box and top is celestion cdx1-1415 comp loaded on a celestion 90x40 horn. Amp is blaupunkt velocity v7000 340 watt car amp and crossed over with a jvc active crossover. Power is from optima 55Ah deep cycle battery. The system is very heavy, weighs around 70kg Big smile But with wheels it's manageable.. LOL

It performed very good! The only thing is the battery life, have to get another battery for extended use. I was looking on some nice cheapo 110Ah batt for times I need more time to blast. With this 55Ah deep cycle leisure batt I can get around 3 hours of loud reggae/dubstep blasting out of it. Not the most efficent box but it sure performs very nice!

Got some good tips from here and from pfl, another user here, so thanks for everyone :) My first build so i'm pretty stoked about it. Most definetly not the last one.. ;)

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nice one!

shame about the run time - something's really eating the juice!
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that would be the sub + inefficent amp.. Embarrassed I'm thinking of getting some tripath amps for it at some point, I'm sure the run time will go up after that.


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thats a lovely design.  and by the sounds on the video, it throws the sound out.  to get more running times, high pass it at 60hz and adjust tuning to 60hz too.  you'll probably gain a few hours of usage time and will sound more efficient too.  i bet that peerless sounds amazingly warm.
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yeah, the peerless sounds really good! Very clean sub :) I'm going to raise the high pass to around 40hz (it's at 30 atm), and also I'll raise the tuning frequency around 40hz which gives a nice 6db boost around 40-50hz in that big enclosure, which I then can equalize to flat using the active crossover, that way I should save a bit of power without losing the lower bass (which was the starting point of my project ;). Overall as I got the crossover properly adjusted, the system sounds very clean and balanced :) I also have a behringer ecm8000 measurement mic so I'll be measuring the response some time soon, will post the graphs then

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why have some of you got blurry faces?
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that one is not my picture so I don't really know Big smile
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yeah I can see from the video that the sub is sinking a lot of power with huge excursion, and I suspect at those frequencies without a horn you get very little if any sound from that. high pass the whole thing at 60hz + as suggested.

one thing with your design is that it does look a bit pro, and as such the police will love to take it away. I have found that the less pro you look, the more the police assume 'just some guys/gals mucking about' and let it be....

looks like cool times though man.

btw dont be tempted to put batteries in parallel in order to 'double' the running time, it doesnt quite work as one would think and the results aren't so good. Get a decent battery the capacity you need - straight up car battery is cheapest option although at 100a/h you will need another trolley :-)
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ops just seen your in finland - i have n o idea how the police are like there! ignore me. x
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Yeah the police are pretty easygoing about it, actually there was a few police at the park when we started but they just glanced at the blaster and went away! Big smile

It's true that the lower bass notes get inaudible after maybe 6-8 meters, so I'll try to hipass around 50-60 and see how the batt performs after that :) I can always change the highpass when needed, as I also use it for personal fun when the distance and battery life is not that much of an issue. The bass is decently heavy in 3 meter radius and also is able to produce some physical sensation which I didn't really expect. So maybe I'll raise the tuning to around 40-45hz and then adjust the highpass according to use. Thanks for feedback!
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Originally posted by mrchay mrchay wrote:


btw dont be tempted to put batteries in parallel in order to 'double' the running time, it doesnt quite work as one would think and the results aren't so good.


Not worth it at all?

I have 2 x 75ah batteries that are about to go into a 12v rig and i was planning to connect them in parallel to hopefully gain some extra lifespan should i need it.

Is it not worth the bother? (and extra 30kg!)

edit: btw very nice rig, looks great Smile


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