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mr. doom
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Posted: 02 August 2012 at 3:09pm |
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Remember if the driver is 8ohms it is not getting 300watts @ 12v and most car amps are designed/tested with higher voltage (14v) in mind. The 12" beyma drivers with can put out a impressive amount of low end (8mm xmax) and are kind of wasted in that tiny box, what about replacing them with cheaper/louder 12's and then using the drivers for sub/midbass units... |
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Saturnus
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Posted: 02 August 2012 at 3:21pm |
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Battery voltage is 12.8V nominal with a LiFePO4 battery as is used here but will be 14.6V fully charged. The amp is measured at 14.4V as is the standard for car audio. But it has a digital voltage tracking PWM power supply which can adjust for voltages as low as 11.2V and still give nominal output. Which is why it will give the same output into both 4 and 2 ohms loads. It simply adjust the supply voltage to the amp. The drivers reach down to 7.1 ohms in this cab so 150W RMS and 300W peak isn't unrealistic. EDIT: I should note that I'm normally not fond of car audio amps. But the Alpine PDX series is quite close to being perfect for all uses where higher power is needed than can be achieved directly on batteries. Indeed it also has input sensitivity that is high enough to be feed directly from mp3 player (at maximum gain). Edited by Saturnus - 02 August 2012 at 3:31pm |
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mr. doom
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Posted: 02 August 2012 at 4:05pm |
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Good to that about the PDX and Lipo's, my Chinese lithiums and sla's only charge to 12v.
I am watching this thread because I am trying to power six ten's in my own rig and wondering if a car amp would be much of an improvement over a TK2050 4x100 @24v... or if it makes more sense to add a TAS5630 amp to the kit. Thanks for the information, not trying to threadjack, just have similar power needs. |
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Posted: 02 August 2012 at 4:39pm |
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welcome,
Battery charges to 14.65v. The amp performs perceivably uniformally until cutting out completely when battery is flat. |
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Posted: 02 August 2012 at 4:50pm |
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Ok, Thanks about the filters. +6db sounds good. The BR box empty has a volume of 91l ( int. dim:254 x 724 x 500). Would your desing fit in this? How about mr.dooms suggetion of using the beymas down low? Thanks |
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Posted: 02 August 2012 at 5:05pm |
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My spec sheet says 2mm xmax, i think hence the efficiency? but I couldn't get much out of them on 'isd. |
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Posted: 02 August 2012 at 5:44pm |
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I just bought the PDN..
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mr. doom
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Posted: 03 August 2012 at 1:45am |
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So it is not this driver http://profesional.beyma.com/pdf/SM-112%20NE.pdf If I had four of those in a small box I would seal it and try to run 1200watts with a linkwitz transform filter and leave the big box at home... you would need more batteries!
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Posted: 03 August 2012 at 6:23am |
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I suspect the Beyma drivers used is the famous 122nd with 103dB sensitivity but maybe Fergatron1 can enlighten us so we don't have to speculate.
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Posted: 03 August 2012 at 11:33am |
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Yes 112nd is correct.
8.4% no. was the clincher. |
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Posted: 03 August 2012 at 11:40am |
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What confuses here is that you insist on typing that wrong. It's the 122nd you have, not the 112nd(W). It's 2 different speakers. The 112nd is a subwoofer driver, magnet is heat sinked. 96dB/w/m. Xmax=8mm and Xlim=34mm. The 122nd is a midwoofer driver. 103dB/w/m. Xmax=2mm and Xlim=16.
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Posted: 03 August 2012 at 12:51pm |
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Ah I stand corrected. I intended the 122nd but made an error..
Thanks for clearing that up.. |
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