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    Posted: 22 June 2012 at 11:33pm
hey guys

Im on a budget of £300 and i have a pair of 18" bassbins at the moment loaded with eminence ps18s.
im looking for a new pair of bassbins as the current ones arent great, i do djing and live sound for up to about 200-300 people and would like a pair of bassbins 15" or 18" that have a nice loud thump to them.
I would be powering them with a pair of bridged ukp1000s and they need to be efficient 

any ideas??

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I'd build 4 ES18s in your position, the current drivers should work in a pair then load the others with any remaining budget. They're fairly easy on driver choice so theres plenty of choice of second hand drivers that should work.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote patrickman123 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2012 at 1:42pm
will the eminence drivers play louder in the ES18 boxes? size is also a bit of an issue as for discos and some live sound gigs i have to fit everything into an estate car
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Fit everything into an estate car? try THAM12?
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If you have the room Tham15, The smaller versions will probably not drop quite low enough.
A pair of Tham 15 could be built with one of the recommended drivers for around £450 and would do you proud.
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the tham 15s look pretty nice, im quite interested in the es18 though, im guessing itd be quite a big cab though
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Would still go THAM15, the  ES18 is genrally used as a kick cab above sub (great for hard dance though?) 




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote patrickman123 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 June 2012 at 10:49pm
is there an 18" version available of the tham?
not being picky but id rather have an 18" bin than a 15", what drivers are best in the tham 15s on a tight budget?


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You mentioned estate car? If you have other DJ Kit to fit in, this doesnt give you a lot of space for your subs. What dimenions are your current subs? Im guessing  you dont have much space beyond what you are already fitting in the car?
 
I suspect that size is going to be a limiting factor in what you can build, there are loads of great designs available, but for small cabs there is less choice. My guess would be a standard bass reflex design optimised is going to be the easiest (I suspect this is what your current subs are, but possibly not optimised) - the other possibility is a compact bandpass design.
 
If you arent getting the results you want from ther current 18" cabs, you might need to consider upgrading drivers as well as building new cabs.
 
You mentioned Eminence PS18s? That would be a fairly old driver, Eminence rebadged the 'PS' series many years ago. From memory I think the PS18-400 is the predecessor to the Sigma Pro 18, and has got to be getting on for 10-15 years old now? If they are PS18-600, current equivalent is the Omega Pro 18. Either way, certainly not cutting edge technology.
 
To get any significant improvement over what you already have, you may need to re-consider your budget (unless you are lucky and find some second hand bargains!)
 
You say you're going to be powered them on a pair of UKP1000s in bridge mode, these are approx 1000W into 8 ohms bridged, probably too much for your current drivers.
 
Im not sure if your original post was intended to be a new speaker building project, or an upgrade, but you may want to consider upgrading the Eminence drivers for something newer and better. Your budget would probably allow for that, particularly if you find some reasonable second hand drivers.
 
Happy to discuss more if you require more info.


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Originally posted by patrickman123 patrickman123 wrote:

is there an 18" version available of the tham?
not being picky but id rather have an 18" bin than a 15", what drivers are best in the tham 15s on a tight budget?
any reason why you would prefer an 18" bin over a 15"?
 
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Originally posted by patrickman123 patrickman123 wrote:

is there an 18" version available of the tham?
not being picky but id rather have an 18" bin than a 15", what drivers are best in the tham 15s on a tight budget?


I have designed two 18" Tapped horns and both work well however stick with the THAM15's these are an ideal compromise for what you want.

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