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    Posted: 16 March 2008 at 11:39pm
I'm gonna be building some sort of horn loaded mid enclosures quite soon and need to purchase some good quality 12" drivers. I'm looking to get as much clarity and clear mid i can get out of the drivers at the price. The 2 contenders i've come up with are:

b&c 12pe32
18 sounds 12nd710

I've got no way of hearing these drivers before i purchase them but both have there plus points on paper, so is there anybody who has any experience with these drivers that can point me in the right direction of which one is the better driver or which one i should purchase.

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I think Mykey likes the 12PE32. B&C drivers are certainly easier to get hold of in the UK than 18 Sound.
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how would either one of these fair in a high tuned reflex cab? say 150Hz?
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Put them into WinISD and find out! :)
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The 12ND710 works nicely in my reflex cabs but tuned to more like 65Hz.  Tuning that high will only screw up the phase response etc.  I would never tune a reflex cab above about 80Hz and that's very high IMO.

Big difference between those two drivers is the weight!  Otherwise they are both very capable for midrange duties.

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Originally posted by Wrighty Wrighty wrote:

Put them into WinISD and find out! :)


I'm on my GFs PC. She humors me cruising this site till all hours, don't think she'd appreciate me installing random stuff tho! I'll check when I get home 2moro.

Thanks for the advice about tuning cerharden.


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What sort of cab are you planning? There are a lot of very nice bass-mid 12" drivers around.
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I'm currently looking at horn loaded midrange cabs, with designs being similar to the mt121. I've already contacted noise control audio and they can definetly get me the 18 sound drivers.
Everyone who has brought the 12pe32's seems to rate them very highly and say there more clear sounding then any other 12" driver they have heard at the price. This was fine and i was about to place my order until i heard that the 12nd710 is also a highly reccomended driver aswell in this league, and looking on the website it has very good spec also, and that neo magnet will make it lighter but it is more expensive.
The main thing is the sound quality, it would be ideal if there is someone who's heard both drivers and can point me in the right direction. Will there be a major difference in sound quality, volume etc between the 2 drivers. And also will the power handling on the 12pe32 be an issue.
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You must take into consideration the efficiency figure when you look at the power handling power of a speaker.
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Originally posted by 3SOUNDS 3SOUNDS wrote:

I've already contacted noise control audio and they can definetly get me the 18 sound drivers.
 
NCA are the guys who sorted out my 18Sound drivers too quickly. Brilliant topic. Will help me finally decide on mid drivers.
 
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i have got 4 of these 12pe32 in Tony`s old skool ASS mid horns,and they are excellent,very efficient,nice crisp sound.
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