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    Posted: 11 November 2011 at 5:07pm
Really excited over our punisher/xtro build. One of several annoying little problems frustrating my Xtro build. We already have puns in the shop is this buisiness over the Beyma TD-245 being discontinued. Well, we only have 1 ciare 12 sw atm because they're out of stock over here and they're expensive in the land formerly know as Europe.

A few other questions I had regarding the Xtros
Anyone got any cad files for them?
Which wire to use insides?
Anyone know a cheap place to get the xt8 horns... online they're £130 now... I know that tri-lithium crystals inside the drivers have shot up in value, but plastic is ****ing plastic!
Anyone selling any drivers or unfinished projects?
What are the exact delay times everyones?

Thanks!

Zak


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote godge Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2011 at 5:21pm
Yeah they have been for a while now, think I got the last two from bluearan as well earlier this year
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tarkovsky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2011 at 7:21pm
Yeah they seem to be the cheapest supplier. I ordered a single ciare 12sw off of them, they're out of stock till the new year.

On the td245 sureley there must be an equivalent part as people still buy and use the drivers that go with. Anyone know how to get in contact with the designers? Maybe they can help.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ceharden Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2011 at 7:40pm
At the moment the XT8 horns are only available from Bluearan.  If they were plastic then then maybe they'd be cheaper but they're made from high quality fibreglass, the phase plug is strengthened with steel rods in the arms and it comes complete with a back bowl.  So not that expensive for a drop-in solution with higher performance than the original Xtro wooden flare.

Regarding the TD245, there aren't many 60x40 1" horn flares available on the market, especially compact ones. It was quite a specialist one.  Partly because to get 60x40 dispersion control properly you really need a larger mouth.

How about:
http://www.bluearan.co.uk/index.php?id=BMATD164&browsemode=category
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http://www.bluearan.co.uk/index.php?id=FTPFPLTH102&browsemode=category

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tarkovsky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2011 at 8:33pm
That's excellent thank you. Thanks for the info. I'm an absolute novice in speaker building.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tarkovsky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2011 at 8:36pm
That's excellent thank you. Thanks for the info. I'm an absolute novice in speaker building.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote phildat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2011 at 9:00pm
rcf hf64  Wink

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RCF-HF64-1-1-4-Horn-Flare-with-adaptor-/200631199666?pt=UK_ConElec_SpeakersPASystems_RL&hash=item2eb68d27b2

good horns.
Its just a ride.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ceharden Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2011 at 10:21pm
RCF is starting to get a bit on the big side.  You don't want to be blocking up the entire output from the upper 15" driver.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote el_dj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 November 2011 at 2:09pm
sorry about this little off topic thing

what is the opinion about this one

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ceharden Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 November 2011 at 2:13pm
Being exponential, it won't have a consistant frequency response over it's coverage angle.  It's also quite small so probably only useful from about 2.5kHz upwards.  Probably good for use with 8" drivers in compact cabs.
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This horn looks right:
http://www.bluearan.co.uk/index.php?id=BMATD164&browsemode=category

Anyone know how much modification will be required of the xtro to get it to fit?

Also, if the td-245 should suddenly become available, and I built two more xtros, would they place nice together?
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The 164 is probably Beymas replacement for the 245, I wouldn't expect it to become available except second hand.
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