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    Posted: 23 February 2010 at 11:16pm
Hello Every Body
I drawed some thing like  a combo who contain

2 Fane studio 10 M http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc107/Subsoniks/Fane10M.jpg
1 driver 1" 2425 J , with a horn  2327 , & JBL 2310 Hartsfield Acoustic Lens
1 tweeter 2402 http://www.jblpro.com/pages/components/uhf_drvs.htm

It done this
Zen concept



I would like have some point of vew , if some one can help me n
for exemple the volume closed , the angle  , any things wich help me for
finalizing

i want the 10 " working between 200/300 Hz to 2000 Hz ,
my driver 2000 Hz to 5000 Hz
my tweeter 5000 Hz to over limit ... & for proximity.


thanks & sorry for my english , i will make some efforts..



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What I understand is that you make a, for your opinion, nice looking design and now your asking 'us' to do all the research for the volume, port tuning and directivity angles?
I think the best thing you can do is searching for a excisting design with the Fane drivers and make your cabinet the same volume per driver.
Than the low section is good and the only thing you need is a good passive X-over with the right frequenties and enough possibillity's to adjust the different drivers on each other so it is well balanced. Much easyer for tuning and equalise the drivers is to use a multi amp system with a digital processor because this combination will give you time alignement problems.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bernard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2010 at 11:30am
Well i use a dbx drive Pack 260
because , i've got a pair of super scooper & a pair of low medium like Altec 6418 RFE ( Radio France Exterieur )
So my combo 'll working from 400 Hz to 20000 Hz.

The things i know about the fane cabinet is a box who contain 4 unit and his a full range application.
it 's not really my project because i just want optimize the speaker for the 400 Hz to 2000 Hz

the caracteristic of the speaker say : enclosure volume 45 to 85 liters , but i think
the volume required is less than 20 L ...
I 've got any good  method .
I think , i will ajuste the volume during the test audio...

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While your drawing looks good, I wouldn't try and build it with those HF components.

A 2402 is a poor choice, a 2405 at 7Khz would be much better.

A 2425 is a poor choice, use a 2" driver from 1Khz~7Khz.

The angle you have drawn for the 10s looks like it should work well, I would run them from 200hz~1Khz.


Edited by _djk_ - 16 February 2012 at 11:42am
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Thanks djk for your recomendations ,
i can't  chose another products as the 2425 J & 2402 JBL.

Also thanks for the precision about the application of the 10 "; But i really want use them
for a voice range (400/1800) Hz .
So can you tell me another angle , configuration.

Anywhere , i drawing a horn with a phase plug wich is able to produce
this range (400/1800) Hz

I determined the geometry of the phase plug  but not yet for the horn.
if anybody can tell me about.

thanks




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Your project is a waste of time and a mis-use of expensive components.
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Well i bought this components on the net verry cheep, so it's not expensive for me

After when you say it 's a waste of time , i 'm sad .
So tell me about . Please
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It's no waste of time I'd say, but you could make a nice 10" horn with phaseplug looking towards tms / flashlight point source designs I think, I myself just collected 6 pcs of these nice 10" drivers.
It should be possible to bolt on the phaseplug even, but it's not in tms I know, about flashlight and newer f1 designs i know nothing


I like Your V-configuration, yet I know very little about this, look for other boxes loaded this way, I think it would be likely to be ported and playing lower like djk says, I think not going above 1khz might be to avoid beaming problems that a phaseplug can take care of. Still I don't know too much about this, I looked inside a d&b linearray dual with the 10" facing appart in narrow port loaded V's almost phase bunged by the handles & with a horn in between with time alignment "bubble" shape. This stops making very much sense to read.

Well, Did you ever build that top then?


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tv00 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 February 2012 at 1:44am
Nice one! Almost like a unity horn, very ideal "point source" build!
I think I can say that you got a little more support than Bernard!

Looks like you're mostly going for US drivers like p.audio / eminence, any particular reason? I go for english (pd / fane /void) or italian rcf / ciare), because they're good (high BL for instance), also because of this forum & because I think of UK as neighbors, shipping and telephone is often the same price from us, but for some reason UK just seems much closer
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