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    Posted: 30 May 2017 at 1:35pm
Friend of mine is considering using one of these,  with 2x 4 ohm hornloaded cabs per side..

Seeing as "actual" impedance of each cab will be closer to 6 ohms, thereby actual load per channel being more like 3 ohms, wondering if anyone tried this before.

Would only try this with Crest 9001 or better.

Comments from those experienced with Crest Pro '001 amps invited.
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The 9001 should cope fairly well with that load.  I have run them at 2Ohms with 4 18" reflex per channel.  You will need a decent power supply because it will draw a lot of current from the mains doing it and make sure the amp has plenty of ventilation.
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Originally posted by ceharden ceharden wrote:

The 9001 should cope fairly well with that load.  I have run them at 2Ohms with 4 18" reflex per channel.  You will need a decent power supply because it will draw a lot of current from the mains doing it and make sure the amp has plenty of ventilation.


9001 or larger '0001 series, are the only transformer amps, I would ever consider for 2 ohms stereo.
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I also know people, looking for 9001s.

Any around ?
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Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

9001 or larger '0001 series, are the only transformer amps, I would ever consider for 2 ohms stereo.


I'm in the process of buying an void infinite 8 mk2 tu run 6 scoops (so 2.6 ohms stereo) and maybe 8 in the future (2ohms stereo), I heard very good reviews about that amp at low impedence (given you feed it 32 amps from proper mains) I know it is good practice to power at higher impedences, but what would exactly be the difference?

EDIT : sorry for the thread hijack if a mod think I should move my post I'll do so



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i would only trust the 9001 for 2 ohm operation have seen one running 4 1850 drivers per channel and the clip lights did not even go off for hours and handles it regularly , due to the excellent limiting behavior, no dead drivers and no amplifier issues and certainly no lack of sub !!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by JBK JBK wrote:

Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

9001 or larger '0001 series, are the only transformer amps, I would ever consider for 2 ohms stereo.


I'm in the process of buying an void infinite 8 mk2 tu run 6 scoops (so 2.6 ohms stereo) and maybe 8 in the future (2ohms stereo), I heard very good reviews about that amp at low impedence (given you feed it 32 amps from proper mains) I know it is good practice to power at higher impedences, but what would exactly be the difference?

EDIT : sorry for the thread hijack if a mod think I should move my post I'll do so



2x Infinite 8 MK2s driving 4 ohm stereo sub each, 40hz HPF, is pretty much impossible to beat.

"Personally", would never run them harder  than that.

9001, run 2 ohm stereo, on serious, serious supply, can well expect output specifications to be exceeded.
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Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:


2x Infinite 8 MK2s driving 4 ohm stereo sub each, 40hz HPF, is pretty much impossible to beat.

Well that seem pretty obvious,  but for now we have the opportunity (and cash) just for one. We jumped on the occasion as it was relatively cheap.

Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:


"Personally", would never run them harder  than that.

Could you elaborate why? Is it not stable @ 2 ohms (but the specs & benchhmarks states so)? do we risk damaging the amp/loudspeakers? we'll have a better sound (=more defined) in 4 ohms?
Or just because we won't have heaps of headroom?

I know that things can be better, I'm just wondering if 6/8 scoops out of a void is (as the specs/benchmarks would show) and if not please explain why.

For now we use 3 EV p3000 8ohms style, 1scoop/channel, which would be absolutely fine if we have infinite space and box boys. we had a good price on this one amp which is praised everywhere so we had a go at it. the other idea was to try the proline 3000 (1 for 4 scoops)
The idea is to get most of our scoops, we don't want to underpower'em.

I may begin another thread on this point

EDIT : to sum up, I'm not asking what is the best/perfect solution but if this amp would be suitable for these subs (6 or 8 pd186 superscoops)


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Have heard of a number of nightmares, with people using it 2.66/2 ohms stereo.

Maybe due to incompetence, poor supply, shoelace speaker cable, who knows..

Have only heard good things about Reggae guys driving 8Mk2 at 4 ohm stereo.
On a number of drivers rated 1200w-1600w.

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What kind of nightmares? What kind of scenarios? I'm very i nterested to know what things we should avoid.

EDIT : I just saw you typed "who knows" so I guess this comment come from hearsay, if anyone here have full failing stories on 2.6/2 ohms I'm interested :)

FYIl we intend to use it on 2.6 ohms stereo but I've read that drivers in scoops tend to have an higher impedence than the nominal one, and that also the infinte 8 was a tank

Also the drivers are rated @ 700/800 Watts contineous so I guess we won't need it to deliver full power of the amp, especially for 6 scoops.

Also, we'll upgrade to 6mm² speaker core speakons (20 meters)

And we we'll use it only on 32A supply, I guess that venues not able to provide 32A don't deserve more than 4 scoops

Also the reason we want to go void (apart from the occasion/cheap price) is that we know personaly people who are going to sell it to us, so we're confident on the amp (we learnt the hard way buying old amp 2nd hand could be risky...).

Anyway thanks for your time man


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Originally posted by JBK JBK wrote:

What kind of nightmares? What kind of scenarios? I'm very i nterested to know what things we should avoid.

EDIT : I just saw you typed "who knows" so I guess this comment come from hearsay, if anyone here have full failing stories on 2.6/2 ohms I'm interested :)


Not from hearsay, but considering your last statement, nothing else to say to you.

Feel free to take your off topic questions to another thread, as opposed to hijacking this one, with completely unrelated questions.Clap



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