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Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

Whats here to explain?
Its a proper engineered box. Not some DIY top box with all sort of compromises.
Everything is nicely time aligned and without cancellations.


and of course using the correct manufacturer designed amps/DSP for the box's.

How big was the room out of interest? Horn subs of that size, generally dont really like being inside, even some fairly large spaces. 
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Originally posted by B_Bender B_Bender wrote:

Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:


Have to agree, did hear that.

Serves as a good reference, as what mid tops should sound like, even at high spl/distance.


you kind of get now, why many PA guys laugh at reggae systems 
you hit the head on the nail , lol been trying to say , this for a long time , scoop and diy top , is where 
start , but can't live there , at one point and time man have to play with , the right pro cabs , to feel the good sound , why didn't run the bass with 6 nukes , I get my coat . Wacko


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Originally posted by B_Bender B_Bender wrote:

That's Q1, quite old now but lots of bang for buck. 

3 cabs per side is not really working as a line array, but still makes a nice noise.

They're Q subs, although the word 'sub' doesn't apply that much.


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Any info on the other sounds?

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It's not only Reggae sounds, who use cabs built from free plans.

And I'm sure not all PA outfits can afford D&B rigs.

Scoops excel for Reggae, no one is going to use them for Wembley concert or the Superbowl.
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Originally posted by RiddimKid RiddimKid wrote:

Any info on the other sounds?

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Was more a line array shoot out, but D&b was only true line array there, IMHO, it was leagues above other top end sections, but so it should be, at the price.
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Should have had Barry's (BPSound) RCF there.  Always shocking how much from so little

And wow, I actually agree with Marjan for once :)
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Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

Originally posted by RiddimKid RiddimKid wrote:

Any info on the other sounds?

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Was more a line array shoot out, but D&b was only true line array there, IMHO, it was leagues above other top end sections, but so it should be, at the price.


Q1 can be had for under a grand a box if you know where to look and don't mind them being in perfect nick. Sure you then also need to buy some D12 to run them but plenty of those about too as bigger outfits move to D80.

Problem is, it's a wide box and some outfit will whack them into a tiny narrow venue and complain they sound pants...

Also building a line Array is hard work. Half the pro outfits get it right and there is a LOT more to it than just getting drivers in the right spacing. Almost half the battle happens in DSP and angle/shaping calculations. Where the cabinets point is NOT where the sound ends up in a hang.

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Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:


Was more a line array shoot out, but D&b was only true line array there,

3x Q1 does not give you a true line array, that's just three boxes rigged in a line!


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Originally posted by B_Bender B_Bender wrote:

Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:


Was more a line array shoot out, but D&b was only true line array there,

3x Q1 does not give you a true line array, that's just three boxes rigged in a line!


from the D&B page at http://www.dbaudio.com/en/systems/category/series/detail/heritage/q-series-1/q1-loudspeaker.html

" Q1 cabinets can therefore be used in vertical configurations starting from two cabinets with a 15° to 30° dispersion, up to 20 cabinets with a fully user and venue defined vertical profile." 

So maybe not a line array but certainly well within the tenets of how the box was intended to be used.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote geoSal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 March 2017 at 12:18pm
Originally posted by B_Bender B_Bender wrote:

Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:


Was more a line array shoot out, but D&b was only true line array there,

3x Q1 does not give you a true line array, that's just three boxes rigged in a line!



exactly.

We've been to uk last week for 3 gigs with a band.In edinburgh I;ve used the d&b y series array ,six per side.The system was good ,but the amps were not the d12 but (I think) the d10 which made the tops sound compressed in the stage where you begin to feel high spl in the room.The subs were a disappointment because they were only 4 y ''subs'' so the whole thing was not balanced at all.
The room also made the sound undefined not suitable for a line array at all..

Same system in Manchester but with d12 amps,more subs and not so long room with more width.
Although only 4 boxes per side the system was tireless, lots of headroom and the pro2 didnt exceed 0db level with no eq  in the master bus on the mixer.
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