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ceharden 
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 Posted: 30 October 2016 at 10:21pm |
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The AES input on the Omnidrive 366T is one of the main reasons I'm still a big fan, that and the limiters are very good. Some of the newer (cheaper brands) are good on the basics but as you say, still lack some of the refinement of the old favourites.
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Posted: 30 October 2016 at 10:40pm |
The auto align and dynamic eq isn't that trustworthy, same as the limiters, on the ultradrives anyway imo. phase and 6db filters, ok i'll give you that but that could be updated later on firmware i guess Aes input is really the main thing you i miss from the others, but personally i've gained a much better sound quality and control overall, plus 2 more outputs and better build quality so its still a marked improvement. Don't get me wrong, I don't think any are bad products but i'm pleasantly surprised by the results i've achieved with actually doing very little different.
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Posted: 31 October 2016 at 10:58am |
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I preferred the Ultradrive to many units, but then sold mine to get BSS 388.
Upgrade in sound quality, but ease of use and versatility were joke compared to DCX. Then got DPs, and better sound quality, much easier to use, more flexible. Thought I might have KT by now, but no need. Use DP limiters on mids/tops, & external 1U unit for sub. |
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Andy Kos
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Posted: 31 October 2016 at 11:33am |
I'm not a fan of auto-align - it rarely works properly - I can see why people use it but its not for me. I would agree on dynamic EQ - that's a useful feature - and hopefully will be added in a future revision of these units. For me, the dB-Mark are far better than the ultradrive on sound quality, and the limiters are much, much better on the dB-Mark than the ultradrive. I found the limiters on the ultradrive just ruined the sound, and were virtually unusable, and the gain structure on the limiters makes them a little annoying in my experience. Price/performance for the dB-Mark is excellent, it keeps up with more expensive products, it just doesn't have some of the bells and whistles on it. |
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taurusty
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Posted: 17 November 2016 at 1:01pm |
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Can't find a DB Mark that has comp on the inputs.
The GUI choices (software version specific) are thoroughly confusing & once connected, appear to have latency when changes are made.. Edited by taurusty - 17 November 2016 at 1:02pm |
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Andy Kos
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Posted: 17 November 2016 at 1:54pm |
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XCA has comp limiter on each output band, to be honest, I think its better to limit this way, as a comp limiter on the input will be triggered by high dynamics, such as kick drum, and that will affect the whole signal, whereas individual output band limiting should be less squashy on the overall sound.
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taurusty
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Posted: 17 November 2016 at 2:15pm |
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Seems to be only limiting, Andy as ratio is not adj, only atk, release & hold.
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Andy Kos
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Posted: 17 November 2016 at 3:29pm |
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Mine definitely has ratio adjustment.
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Posted: 17 November 2016 at 9:49pm |
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as above all, dbmark xca have ratio adjust, since firmware 1 right up to current versions of firmware.
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https://www.elements-audio.com
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taurusty
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Posted: 17 November 2016 at 11:04pm |
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Saw that in the XCA lit.
Was referring to Mk II & IV DP's 48 & 28 FW 1.05 respectively, which are all I've been exposed to over here...Was wondering if I'm doing something wrong... |
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Andy Kos
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Posted: 17 November 2016 at 11:24pm |
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You are right, the older units dont have as many features, XCA is far superior to DP series, but the DP series I think are excellent units if you consider sound quality, features and price.
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Posted: 22 November 2016 at 10:21pm |
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Do none of them have AES in?
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