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    Posted: 10 February 2013 at 4:16pm
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i want to connect a berry dcx to my laptop
it says to use a RS-232 lead, but my latop doesnt have a rs-232 connection
is there a converter lead or something available? 
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corr that sounds well good, how many k is it pushin? what amps you got? turn it up abit mate.
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Something like this should work

http://www.amazon.co.uk/USB-RS232-Converter-Cable/dp/B00077DJIQ/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote slaz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 February 2013 at 5:17pm
Originally posted by APW APW wrote:

Something like this should work

http://www.amazon.co.uk/USB-RS232-Converter-Cable/dp/B00077DJIQ/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top


It very likely won't.

But this will :-

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0000VYJRY/?tag=hydra0b-21&hvadid=9550942989&ref=asc_df_B0000VYJRY


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I have used the USB to RS232 in the link I posted for numerous applications and never had any issues.

Amazon seem to ship two different version of the lead, one uses the Prolific drivers and the other uses an installer package called 'CH341SER.exe', this is sometimes supplied on disk with the lead but more often that not you need to google 'CH341SER.exe' and download it from the manufactures web page 'http://www.wch.cn/download/.....', Once the driver is installed the the lead works fine.


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Originally posted by APW APW wrote:

I have used the USB to RS232 in the link I posted for numerous applications and never had any issues.

Amazon seem to ship two different version of the lead, one uses the Prolific drivers and the other uses an installer package called 'CH341SER.exe', this is sometimes supplied on disk with the lead but more often that not you need to google 'CH341SER.exe' and download it from the manufactures web page 'http://www.wch.cn/download/.....', Once the driver is installed the the lead works fine.


AFAIK the very cheap adapters are designed to work primarily with olde worlde modems and terminals .... but not with every type of RS232-equipped device. Some applications need to communicate with a real hardware UART (16550 usually ISTR)

Remember the introduction of AC97 audio and modems on PC motherboards ? These used the main CPU (and/or bits of the south brdige ?) to emulate some of the reqd. functionality .....
Well AFAIK its similar with the very cheap USB->RS232 adapters, and if the app is written to address a real serial port it just doesn't work with an emulated (or partly emulated) port.

The Keyspan branded ones I mentioned have a real hardware UART - hence the relative cost.


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TBH Get a laptop with an RS-232, you look like a burk with the wrong tools, make sure whatever junk you buy has hardware flow control, most USB > RS-232 don't and will brick a DCK on a firmware flash...
 
The reason Apple has no place in pro Audio is no RS-232, just get a shit box dell or tosh or IBM with a proper connector and use it for just that....
 
 
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Originally posted by shagnasty shagnasty wrote:


The reason Apple has no place in pro Audio is no RS-232,


Was nice knowing you, SH.


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Originally posted by shagnasty shagnasty wrote:

just get a shit box dell or tosh or IBM with a proper connector and use it for just that....
 


+1 ....

Can't see why some people just don't seem to get that.

Got a Dell PIII-M 1.2GHz laptop here ... 12" XGA screen, 1GB RAM, 20GB disk, solid build quality, reliable ....... and has a proper serial port. Up for grabs for slightly more than the price of the keyspan adapter I linked to. (am I allowed to say that ?) ....

If it gets nicked/smashed/beer spillage .... well you'd likely just suck your teeth a bit .... what if that happens to your dual-core 4GB jobby ?

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Originally posted by slaz slaz wrote:

Originally posted by shagnasty shagnasty wrote:

just get a shit box dell or tosh or IBM with a proper connector and use it for just that....
 


+1 ....

Can't see why some people just don't seem to get that.

Got a Dell PIII-M 1.2GHz laptop here ... 12" XGA screen, 1GB RAM, 20GB disk, solid build quality, reliable ....... and has a proper serial port. Up for grabs for slightly more than the price of the keyspan adapter I linked to. (am I allowed to say that ?) ....

If it gets nicked/smashed/beer spillage .... well you'd likely just suck your teeth a bit .... what if that happens to your dual-core 4GB jobby ?



+2

Good advice, got myself a £100 Dell laptop from ebay which is dedicated to rig use, no qualms about leaving it hooked up unattended.

Having said that if you just want to mess around at home I can confirm these work:

http://www.easysync-ltd.com/product/526/es-u-1001-r10.html






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Originally posted by colinmono colinmono wrote:

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Having said that if you just want to mess around at home I can confirm these work:

http://www.easysync-ltd.com/product/526/es-u-1001-r10.html



oo yes .... those look the nuts with proper specs and documentation etc.
Huge range of cable lengths etc. too .... why doesn't Behringer ship one of these as standard with new machines fer gawds sake ? Or indeed build one internally into the machine (with their own device ID programmed in) terminating in a USB type B socket on the panel ?

I suppose max USB cable length could be an issue.


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USB is not a useful interface for audio processors, limited length, under windows tends to appear on random ports, and TBH if you don't know how to plumb into an RS-232/485 line you probably shouldn't be accessing the kit anyways.
 
The real question is why don't they put a web-kit system in so you can hit up the units over TCP/IP even crappy Apples have ethernet!!!
 
Oh, no my mistake, they don't anymore.....LOL
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Which of these would work ?

http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/Cables/USBRS232.htm
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