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As far as i'm aware, ratchet straps are not rated for lifting


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Originally posted by empiresoundsystem empiresoundsystem wrote:

Originally posted by spongebob spongebob wrote:

As far as i'm aware, ratchet straps are not rated for lifting


Article 126 

http://www.hseni.gov.uk/l113_safe_use_of_lifting_equipment.pdf

clearly says you should not normally....
it wasnt a normal situation

anyway i thought youd be too busy setting up more fake profiles and trolling peoples groups mr beswick, and didnt you sell your system as no one would use you due to lack of a kick sectionTongue




Edited by nuclearbass - 24 January 2016 at 9:43pm
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Its pretty simple. If you don't know why something is or isnt right for the job you are not qualified to do the job.

Rich Please don't lift things with Ratchet Straps. There is no saftey restraint on the load once you lift the release on the handle.

Also the loading on a Ratchet strap is not rated on a downward force load. I.E if you hung 10,000kg of metal on a 10,000kg ratchet strap it would snap instantly.

Use the Method with the winch stands.

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Rich Please don't lift things with Ratchet Straps. There is no saftey restraint on the load once you lift the release on the handle.

it wasnt secured with the ratchet it was chained up there with 4 chains spaced out, i think the hardware were rated at 250kg each, the kit on there must have weighed less than half that, once it was up there it was safe, the straps wasn't ideal but it did the job and with only our selves there "yes a bit naughty" but it solved our problem.

we have how ever invested in some chain winches in the mean time.  This was the first time wed been asked to do a dead hang so didnt have any
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Originally posted by nuclearbass nuclearbass wrote:

Originally posted by empiresoundsystem empiresoundsystem wrote:

Originally posted by spongebob spongebob wrote:

As far as i'm aware, ratchet straps are not rated for lifting


Article 126 

http://www.hseni.gov.uk/l113_safe_use_of_lifting_equipment.pdf

clearly says you should not normally....
it wasnt a normal situation

anyway i thought youd be too busy setting up more fake profiles and trolling peoples groups mr beswick, and didnt you sell your system as no one would use you due to lack of a kick sectionTongue


sigh, last time I stick up for you lol
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Originally posted by empiresoundsystem empiresoundsystem wrote:

Originally posted by nuclearbass nuclearbass wrote:

Originally posted by empiresoundsystem empiresoundsystem wrote:

Originally posted by spongebob spongebob wrote:

As far as i'm aware, ratchet straps are not rated for lifting


Article 126 

http://www.hseni.gov.uk/l113_safe_use_of_lifting_equipment.pdf

clearly says you should not normally....
it wasnt a normal situation

anyway i thought youd be too busy setting up more fake profiles and trolling peoples groups mr beswick, and didnt you sell your system as no one would use you due to lack of a kick sectionTongue


sigh, last time I stick up for you lol

if i needed you id be in a sorry state of affairs mate, get back to blocking people who give you solid advise on facebook
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Originally posted by nuclearbass nuclearbass wrote:

Originally posted by empiresoundsystem empiresoundsystem wrote:

Originally posted by nuclearbass nuclearbass wrote:

Originally posted by empiresoundsystem empiresoundsystem wrote:

Originally posted by spongebob spongebob wrote:

As far as i'm aware, ratchet straps are not rated for lifting


Article 126 

http://www.hseni.gov.uk/l113_safe_use_of_lifting_equipment.pdf

clearly says you should not normally....
it wasnt a normal situation

anyway i thought youd be too busy setting up more fake profiles and trolling peoples groups mr beswick, and didnt you sell your system as no one would use you due to lack of a kick sectionTongue


sigh, last time I stick up for you lol

if i needed you id be in a sorry state of affairs mate, get back to blocking people who give you solid advise on facebook
 
*advice lol, all the best Richard x
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typo, oh well, I

i don't recall this being a spelling forum
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im not sure how unsafe this is classed as but i thought id share it anyway, its in our own unit for the cinema night we did
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Well done on the ordering of the chain blocks.

Have you had a google on how to strop and shackle truss?

Sling These are common for going round the truss. Also can be used for the point, especially good for wooden joist's in old buildings etc. Not ideal for I-Beams.

3.25 Bow Shackle Bow shackles for connecting straps to chain blocks.

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im not sure how unsafe this is classed as but i thought id share it anyway, its in our own unit for the cinema night we did



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i actually love how you don't give a crap! Thumbs Up

everybody has to think on their feet every now and again, using ratchets isn't ideal but better than some poly rope from the hardware shop, or two blokes stuggling up a ladder!! You have the right kit now for future use, fair play. I've done MUCH worse but we shan't speak of that haha.

Also note, shouldn't use chains on the truss either as they don't couple the load evenly on the truss chords - which could cause pinch points malforming the chord and compromising structural stability [ie: chain links could dent/slice the tubes of the truss]. Use rated slings for primary fixing, with plastic wrapped rated steel cables/shackles for secondaries [in case of fire melting said slings].

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