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    Posted: 23 February 2008 at 2:30pm
anyone tried this combo???
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote login4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2008 at 6:54pm
come on guys someone must know,

i seem to remeber someone talking about the 2226 driver in a short horn before

Resonant Frequency (fs) 40 Hz
Impedance (Re) 5.0 ohms
Coil Inductance (Le) 1.75mH
Mechanical Q (Qms) 5.0
Electrical Q (Qes) .33
Total Q (Qts) .31
Compliance Equivalent Vol. (Vas) 175 Liters/6.2cu. ft.
Voice Coil Overhang (Xmax) 7.6mm
Reference Efficiency 3.3%
Effective Surface Area (Sd) .088 m2

http://www.jblpro.com/pages/pub/components/2226.pdf
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The 2226 is one of those speakers that will work in both reflex cabs and horn loaded cabs much in the same way as a PD 1550 does. Although the 2226 will be a little more delicate in a horn cab.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote login4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2008 at 10:57pm
Cheers tony, so what your saying is that, the driver probly wont take as much power as normal because of the stresses of horn loading? 
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I think it would be ok within the power limits. In reality, all drivers get pushed further, some survive, some don't. I once bought 32 2226 for one of my hire systems. The bass cabs were BS 1200's. We had about 20 actually catch fire. when we opened up the boxes, the cones seem to have vanished into thin air. Harman admitted a fault with the cooling system and to their credit replaced all of them. I never had any unusual problems after that. The 2226 is now an old speaker, a very nice old speaker, but there are other speakers that will outlast it.
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I use them in some martin 115's(mid bass) and they dont play as deep as an Eminence Kappa pro lf,or as loud as a pd1550,but they do work.
Be carefull with them though as I found out one Dubstep night.I was told that something had happend with a box but wasn't there to witness it.On closer inspection the next day I discovered a small fire is what had happend!half the cone and some of the wadding burnt.Must have been noticed a bit more than they let on methinks .I'll try and get a pic up as you dont often see it.Made me realise that in the wrong hands my system was potentially a serious health hazard!I am now slowly swapping them over,IMO there best suited to reflex,room to breathe!

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No way, just read your post Tony,wasn't there when I started writing that,I see it does happen!Do you think they'd sort mine Scary though to think that I could have been responsible for a fire.why is it as soon as you leave something goes wrong!

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I'll just say one more thing while were on this subject. When the 2226 changed from the 2225 it was mainly the cooling system that had been upgraded or so they thought. Where the new cooling vents appeared, it also left less of a heat sink on 3 positions on the coil. This is where the coils were overheating. Strange but true.
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Just to add to what Tony said,when they changed from the 2225 to the later 2226,the voice coil changed from copper to alluminium,the cone had a sort-of reinforced fibre glass added to it,and the whole magnet assembly got smaller,together with the 3-point vented pole peice Tony mentioned...they then upped the power from the older  2225`s 400watt to 600w for the 2226,...but in my opinion,the earlier 2225 was a much better driver....as can be seen in the secondhand prices,old 2225`s sell for a lot more than 2226`s now.
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thats interesting to know guys, ill have to keep an eye out for some of those,

thinking about it i do have some old JBL cones in the workshop there all blown (not me) and used to have Alu/tin dust caps on them, wonder if there 2225's
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Nope,2225 allways had cardboard dust cap...the alu. dust caps will be K or E series.(K140 etc)
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Originally posted by jbl_man jbl_man wrote:

Just to add to what Tony said,when they changed from the 2225 to the later 2226,the voice coil changed from copper to alluminium,the cone had a sort-of reinforced fibre glass added to it,and the whole magnet assembly got smaller,together with the 3-point vented pole peice Tony mentioned...they then upped the power from the older  2225`s 400watt to 600w for the 2226,...but in my opinion,the earlier 2225 was a much better driver....as can be seen in the secondhand prices,old 2225`s sell for a lot more than 2226`s now.

Many online seem to prefer the 2225s !!!
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