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first i  want to build 3-4 singles of different designs including selenium double 18 horn (divided) and something like hog but 15 inches maximum.

i like how thiis design sounds also but you need at least 16 to make sense

of course it would be hard to outperform wsx which i adore for excellent depth and pressure...



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark James Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 October 2008 at 9:07pm
no dont lose the wsx!!! not till youve tried her with the old xtro lol
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xtro is also in my plans for autumn
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those little bins look interesting what are they 12"....?
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ты опять дома собрался пилить такой громоздкий ящик???

p.s. - upper photo - projekt Maks Peshkov and Frends (Jms)....
horns plans http://photofile.ru/users/tda-audio/
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote everdark Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 October 2008 at 10:45pm
12LW1400 based horn made by moscow guys. i love how they fit my trunk and their pressure))))
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mykey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 October 2008 at 3:42am
Originally posted by H... H... wrote:

I would guess with this plan one side of the driver is always gonna tear as the driver isn't loaded evenly
no, the driver is loaded evenly because it's a letter box throat, I'm talking about little volume there is in front of the throat
 
Look at the problems people have with the punisher, the 'round' opening in front of the driver is too close to the facing pannel, they tear if over pushed
 
this design is a letter box throat and the volume in front looks even less than the punisher
the pressure would be too much
 
if you like throwing money away on drivers then bulid it
 
the graph looks very good, but will the drivers last
 
back to the drawing board I would say  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mykey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 October 2008 at 4:00am
Originally posted by tommysb tommysb wrote:

Originally posted by mykey mykey wrote:

the area in red is to small, this needs to be deeper, the blue marking should be a solid piece across the width of the cabinet
 


SO mykey, are you saying that a throat like this will put too much stress on the driver?


a letter box throat is fine, read above

 

all though Amano's is a little small (don't ask me , ask his wife), that wasn't my concern, it was the area in front of the throat 

 

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Opps sorry Mykey didn't read through the post - yeah ze letterbox would load the cone evenly - But your right on the thoat, it may as well have teeth on it 'cause its gonna EAT drivers!

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Originally posted by everdark everdark wrote:

first i  want to build 3-4 singles of different designs including selenium double 18 horn..

 
i seperated a selenium double 18" horn into a single.  an easy build and good quality sound. i used one in a small pa. high passed it at 45hz and it hit very hard indeed.   i always wanted to build 3 more and see what happened.  with one it would tickle your nostrils at 10 meters outside. 
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respect..
i like to see people having a proper crack at designing their own cabs (with afew goals in mind at that) :)

haven't had time to read all of this post to see whats happened since page 1..

tho yes, definitely give dimensions a little consideration.. as you may not find double fire doors everywhere you go; even if the organizers adamant they have them ;) ..also watch out for weight; upto 80kg in one cab is manageable between two people safely ..100kg+ gets f*cking stupid ;) :)
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Originally posted by TDA-Audio TDA-Audio wrote:

ты опять дома собрался пилить такой громоздкий ящик???

p.s. - upper photo - projekt Maks Peshkov and Frends (Jms)....

нет... есть цех...

Задача - создать уличный Саб, играющий ниже 40 Гц., с давлением не ниже, чем WSX.

Конфигурация Джефа Робинсона,- сомнительна, в своей эффективности, так как ход диффузора, на частотах ниже 35 и 50 Гц. - слишком высок, что значительно сократит список динамиков, подходящих для данного оформления.

Ciare достать, как я понимаю, довольно сложно.

Еще вопрос назрел, как моделировать скуперы в Hornresp!? Понравилась конфигурация by Maks Peshkov and Frends. Tongue

 

How to model something like SCOOPERs in HORNRESP? exist examples?



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