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PISSHEAD
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Have a look at this eq looks like a space age pre amp. Just scroll down and check out the additional pics you can see the various roll off freq.
http://cgi.ebay.de/Klein-und-Hummel-UE-1000-RARITAT-VERY-RARE-TOP_W0QQitemZ170286900979QQcmdZViewItemQQptZStudioequipment?hash=item170286900979&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1229|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318 Edited by PISSHEAD - 31 December 2008 at 9:55pm |
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The 'drunken master' strikes again.
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russ d
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to be pedantic, its a mono vinyl cutting / mastering equalizer, not a pre-amp, and wont do the job of one !... its from the early 70`s, weighs in at around 25kg... as an equalizer, if working good, then it should sound good, a bit extreme for any sound system use tho`, and expensive !
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mskeete
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That first picture is a bit "out of context". Looks like you've removed the xover board and all the parametrics and have 2 of the parametric boards hanging over the LED meters
If that's how I soldered that connection then there's no defending that. As for the little bit of exposed shielding, the wire is part of a double screened wire. it's not likely to touch a supply rail or opamp output. The supplies are short circuit protected and so are the opamps
Anyway, you'll be pleased to know that already have a new version of that circuit board with input / output connectors as well as power connectors (that one only has power connectors). I'll post a picture if you really want to see it
There's a simple reason that those caps aren't on the board which I don't really need to go into because as you have said, nothing is actually wrong with that. A few components mounted off board doesn't = prototype. I've seen JTS other preamps with a few components mounted off board but you didn't call them prototypes.
As for electrolytics in the signal path, I've seen that all all sorts of equipment. We can have endless debates about that
That wire's too short to pick up KISS FM
No big deal here. Must have been out of stock of some small caps. I used some bigger ones
That wire hasn't and isn't going anywhere
Was this from the tape output of both units? if so, I can explain the difference
In most of the sessions I've been to, I don't notice a great amount of bakground noise out of my preamps (except one particular sound but that's another story)
I've heard JTS (the sound system) with some large background noise (Played against touch above) and I seem some other sounds that use noise gates just before the amps because their set is so noisy
You got me thinking about that. I did some searching on the net and then checked my case supplier and notice they have some EMI/RFI shielding case options. I'll speak to them on Monday. The use of aluminium cases was never about cost. I don't need to sell preamps to pay my bills
Looking forward to the audio tests (good or bad)
you like the VU meters?
I got about 300 sitting here pre built. I'll sell you some
somebody bring me a gun....
Heat gun of course
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HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY IN THE ROOTS AND CULTURE FORUM
HAS BEEN A VERY EDUCATIONAL YEAR
ALL THE BEST FOR 2009
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Joseph Redhemption
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Raspect mskeete
I really apreciate your honest replies. Raspect in every aspect. The readers will make their own opinions about. I will chase this noise issue and keep you informed. Because I did the check the individual xover output and the noise is mainly on the hi-mid and the highs. Bass and lo-mid are quiet. About the caps as you say this is a great debate but theres defenitly an answer. Electrolitycs cap have a greater - 5 to 10 times - impedance thus creating problems in the linearity of frequency response and greater distortions. Its not because you saw it in many lo-cost or so called consumer electronics that this is a good thing. When I look in some of my gear - Urei 2-1176, Thorens PR15, Aura Evolution, Dynacord Eminent1 and Exellent - I don't see any electrolityc on the output but only quality film caps. About the flying components your right in JTS there are a few. But in yours there are many and not like JTS where the components are between a board and a switch. They cannot move. I will not say by yours it will move nor I would say it will not. In my proffesionnal route I had to design and build tools for the oil and gas that goes down hole. There are many vibrations and shock and I saw many times broken wire or components that moved. A wire or a component that is not firmly attached will brake its only a matter of time. For the shielding I can only strongly suggest you to use steel and to cut all of these antennas. Once again in my proffesionnal journey I had to develop and build - not alone- a chirurgical simulator and we had to pass EMI/RFI tests. We did go to a anechoidal room and we where really surprised how sensible it can be to make it EMI proof. Every little hole in the case or bad shielding inside where the entry point of the pertubations. Thank you anyway for taking time to reply to my remarks. Big Up Raspect. Jo Edited by Joseph Redhemption - 01 January 2009 at 7:12pm |
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Masai
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Oh my gosh, man! Wat a ting!
Me nah say a nuttin! Let's see what other pre-amp builders, come up with........ |
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mostecs soldering iron !!
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yeah, I've upgraded from my old one
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mostec gets to grips with latest pre-amp build....
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To blouse n skirts!!!pmsl!! My dad use to have one a dem! Russ - you're cold iya!!! Or should that say hot...... All of this makes for interesting reading. |
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Greetings,
here is weeda, from Jah Militant in france .
well, from this morning got my own house internet connection and so finally have find time to read the whole post knowing that the mostec preamp use here is mine .
I gave the preamp to Joseph after last dance we did here in Lyon, inviting WSP to play on our stack .Joseph is close to me living in switzerland and mi in lyon. Tribulation, which is far to be the most brutal man in sound system bizniss, have broke one of the knob of bass on that night so joseph propose me nicely to change it .
what i did discover from this post just put mi in a big big deception, not because of the sound, this preamp is the twice i order from mostec and in terms of sound i am very happy , more than with my old jts or other prreamps i have had in hands .
after having wait one year (fe real, no lies) to be build, my preamp already broke after 4 months . Nothing personnal with Mostec (who has ever take time and even move down to france to bring mi the preamp in hands ) that is , still for me , a great builder & one of the best, but him definitely dont know how to deal with finitions , solidness and quality of the work . and unfortunartely that goes on him, BUT ALL PREAMP BUILDER SHOULD PUT MORE ATTENTION ON THE FINITIONS AND QUALITY OF THE MACHINE ITSELF, NOT ONLY MOSTEC BUT LINCOLN, JTS AND MORE.
seeing at the knobs used in the preamp i wonder if they were not build in sugar (components choice ) . yes i know preamps are hand job, ruff job, underground job, whatever job yu want, i know i dont buy a rotary eire or whatsoever machine, but i still put 750 pounds on the board, which any preamp builder should forget).
i dont come to diss someone or to say this guy is better than other one. I COME WITH MY LITTLE MONEY, TRUSTING A MAN TO HAVE A MACHINE OF QUALITY THAT WILL LIVE LONG TIME AND THAT WILL NOT BREAK IN 4 MONTHS .when yu put like one year saving money, waiting one year to have it and yu see the result , yu just deceive.. not vex, no vengence or vendetta, just deceive .
well, cant stay too long or even bla bla longtime on that and i really dislike doing what i do now but i think that my opinion as owner of the preamp shall be known .i have 150 euros to give again for the preamp to be ok (and have nuff tings to change again on it for it to be solid, and ready for dances ... ex : knobs, back panel with rca who is not fixed, buy a new case when even mostec recognise he put a aluminium case knowing it will give background noise etc etc .., need to move,take and pay the train and wait without preamp during longtime ....
yu know what ... i am tired of that ! i have been personnally hill and in serious health problems last months and that has just put mi more weight on shoulders at a time i didnt needed .if i buy a car, the motor can be a ferrari, if the wheels are in sugar i could go nowhere.
i just cant accept to put money again in it after the price i paid and the life i live, surely struggling as most of yu .
think what yu want from my statement people, i talk with the heart, nothing less nothing more, no hate , no love , just my point of view.
respect to all
weeda
Jah Militant
France
and dont forget
JAH MILITANT meets ABA SHANTI I on our stack, on the 31 of january... LYON Rail Theatre .
Full dvd of the WSP/ Jah Militant dance of last october (setup, jms warm up, wsp warm up ,dub fe dub +audio session mp3) available on request for 5 pound for paying dvds and shipping charges , contact mi at :
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mskeete
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Weeda I have some things technical things to say but not now |
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