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Pasi 
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 Posted: 23 August 2010 at 11:06am |
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Hmm. This starts to make sense. Of course economic situation is what it is worldwide, but Martin Audio had 50% drop in their turnover from 2008 to 2009...
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Bm!
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Posted: 23 August 2010 at 11:10am |
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however if you do import them you are liable for prosecution. its like downloading a movie, you may not be the one that copied it but you can still get a fine.
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shagnasty
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Posted: 23 August 2010 at 12:19pm |
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Is this true?
I would have assumed as long as the box is never passed off as a Martin Audio box there would be no problem with owning and or using it.
The box won't be a perfect copy, they never are, so if it came to a court case Martin (who probably have better things to do) would have to demonstrate that your box was in fact a copy of their's and the slight difference would be enough to say it is a similar design but not a copy.
I know Turbosound alledgedly chainsawed a load of counterfit boxes back in the day, but I belive they also had title to the boxes at the time they cut them up!!!
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Bm!
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Posted: 23 August 2010 at 12:27pm |
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IIRC i read somewhere that martin dont actually patent their designs. There was a talk once about all they had to do is change screw sizes for it to be passed off as a different design - don't know how much truth there is in these claims tho.
However if it is patented, they are still copying the design, and not even trying to change the look of it - so if martin wanted to they could potentially find a loophole and press charges against people. when it comes down to it its a case of who has more money to pay lawyers with.. martin audio or your average dj?
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kedwardsleisure
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Posted: 23 August 2010 at 12:32pm |
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Any uk company importing these would almost certainly have a date with Martin in court.
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Posted: 23 August 2010 at 12:43pm |
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wouldnt it be better to buy one,and copy it yourself,if you were that way inclined?
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all that glitters is not gold
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Bm!
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Posted: 23 August 2010 at 12:45pm |
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People don't for the same reason most people don't grow their own vedge, its easier to pop to the supermarket.
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Posted: 23 August 2010 at 12:48pm |
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Actually, downloading a film is not a criminal or civil offence. Distrubuting them, however, is another matter. It's only that the nature of the majority of popular sources of downloaded material is peer-to-peer and sharing is inherent (Soulseek, BitTorrent, etc) so you often upload as well as download. I deal with this stuff day in day out and not once has there been a copyright infringement notice specifically for downloading. Anyways, enough offtopic stuff 
In this case it's not really a case of copyright, but patent infringement if they did want to pursue it and stand a chance of winning. Edited by toastyghost - 23 August 2010 at 12:50pm |
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Bm!
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Posted: 23 August 2010 at 1:32pm |
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ahh right, i always thought it was being in possession of illegal copied material.
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Posted: 23 August 2010 at 1:52pm |
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Copied material itself is not illegal, full stop - the definition of piracy is the distribution of copied media. If you're ever gonna download anything, it's well worth knowing your rights. Edited by toastyghost - 23 August 2010 at 1:53pm |
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Posted: 15 October 2010 at 10:20am |
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This really sickens me to be honest.
Martin are the ones pouring money into research and what are they having to show from it....Turnover has been shot completely. This is the sort of thing that's putting companies such as Martin into the ground. I wonder is their anything Martins parent company can do about this? |
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Posted: 15 October 2010 at 10:28am |
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I've been using this fake Martin bother a fair bit - great kit :) ! you would never tell the difference and its like 70% off Martin's prices..... Perfect
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