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    Posted: 06 January 2011 at 12:56pm
Because ive not been impressed with them with fane xb's and im expecting the same results with the 1850's (which is not performing to their full caperbilities).
 
If im happy with my currents scoops with 1850s then yeah il probably keep them but i recon hogs will use the driver much more efficiantly.
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if the scoops you already have are good enough, you can just "upgrade" drivers to pd1850 and if it is really needed you can add other 2 of the same scoops in the future...why change all bass section when you already have 4xgood bins?
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Nice looking stacks there !
 
Problem is my mid-top section is sorted.
 
I am pretty set on the hog now but have decided im not in a massive rush to get them
The scoops i run at the moment are mr dubz and im told to put 1850's in them before upgrading and i might be pleasently suprized so its gonna be the drivers for me first. After a while i will start to gather the funds for hogs and start the build, then eventually upgrade.
 
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maybe you dont have the midtop section sorted yet...if thats the case and you never built boxes before, you can start by building some nice reflex midtops, 15" upper bass bin would be an easy job, so you start to have some experience with screws, glue, panels. then you can build superscoop or hog but if its the first woodwork, it can be difficult.

i have built 4 x hogs and the first one was "nightmare" to built, while the others were a much better/faster work, especially to screw the braces.

hog would take 2sheets and a half, superscooper can be built with 2, if you put pd1850 in hog you have to make a small modification to fit the driver.
 
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Have run both supers and hogs, hogs play lovely loud and low with 1850's, supers much nicer with v1000 or 186's are a little power shy for my liking than 1850's.

I prefer the hogs but that is personal preferance 
i dont think that 1850's in supers is a good idea sound to brutal for my liking.


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well it looks like building may be the best option,
ive never seen any come up with the exeption of gash's a while back.
 
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I actually contacted Gash a couple of days ago asking to buy there hogs and they responded very politely telling me that they had decided to keep them.

As far as I am aware Ive only every seen hogs for sale a handfull of times. I believe HBL sold his to gash who then got tom at stable to armour plate them in ply. The other time there were 4 ply ones that went to fuzzylogic, im sorry but ive forgotten who it was who was selling them. I was fighting to try and get those 4 hogs but just couldnt get a van together as quickly as fuzzy could. If any do come up for sale I have cash sat here waiting to buy some more.


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Are they selling them is the question then?
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Originally posted by jack-red-eye jack-red-eye wrote:


And have gash not sold off their hogs for USB's?.

 


No, they're still tucked in the corner of their unit, looking massive.
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Originally posted by johnatron johnatron wrote:

Hey up Jack,
If your gonna get a build on I would go for hogs mate, even with your XBs in them they sound really nice don't think 4 would out perform 6 Supers but would certainly give em a run for the money.
I ran XBs in mine and really liked the sound, plus theirs scope for a link up with us as well as gash. 

I'm gonna start the build of 7 and 8 at some point in the next few months know a guy with a CNC and laser cutter in Manchester so could maybe get them built on that run if you like?
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Cheers for the advice John.
Have you still got xb's in your hogs, because if 6 fanes can do what those hogs did on NYE i wont even bother getting 1850's! But im pretty sure you sold some xb's to my bro a couple of moths ago so im guessing you have upgraded.
 
The problem with building is ive never built anything before! I suppose with lazer cuttings it would be easier but i still don't fancy myself for it.
 
I was planning on upgrading march-april times so i have a while for some hogs to come up (hopefully)
 
And have gash not sold off their hogs for USB's?.
 
And mykey the question wasnt which performs better, its quite obviously the hog.
What i was asking is would 4 hogs keep up with 6 supers?
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Hog = bigger mouth, longer horn

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Originally posted by p1go p1go wrote:


Super scooper was designed for PD1850 LOL
http://speakerplans.com/images/superscoopa.jpg


why newby dem love jump in tings before do dem homework ? LOL

Originally posted by Nick Sasquash Nick Sasquash wrote:

Jack... PD1850 aint the right driver for a super scoop ... 


yes nick

lev say void 1000 & wembley bline 800 sound better than even 186 in standard super
but make few mods to super and it turn into beast  with turbomax and fane 1000
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