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Sound and Lighting : What made The Paradise Garage stand out among all other nightclubs technically ?

During its run, the Paradise Garage boasted one of the best nightclub sound and lighting systems in New York City. In fact some of the concepts that were developed for the Garage back then, in some way still, cannot be matched in today’s more advanced sound and lighting designs. As hard as that may seem, it seems that sometimes the old adage is relevant "If it ain't broke don't fix it".

The Dance Floor

The Dancefloor at the Paradise Garage is a topic that has been ever present in my mind for the last 18 years. In my opinion that floor design was the best there could ever be for a nightclub space. As my good friend Peter once put it, "It's like a time capsule, you're totally isolated".
And he was absolutely right, the space was totally sectioned off from the rest of the club, totally self contained. Even though it stood in the center of all the surrounding lounges, it still had an atmosphere of it's own. No other nightclub I have ever seen has come close to capturing this isolation effect. Then again, no other club except the Garage would be committed to giving up that much real estate just for the sake of the dancefloor, but then the Paradise Garage was unique wasn't it?

Yes. . .the dancefloor was just like a capsule, and just like every capsule you had to have a command center. . . And the dj booth at the Garage was mission control. Positioned above the dancefloor like an observation tower, the entire rooms atmosphere was controlled from here. With the twist of a single dial, the room would go silent, as quiet as a country field on a summer night. no sound would you hear but the faint hum of the amplifiers in the control room above. With that same twisting motion, thunderous audio would burst through your heart like a bolt of lighting. . . the warm base vibration would lift you from the floor suspending you weightless, your heart would race and senses would tingle. No where else could you be embraced in a blanket of sound, but right here. You wanted to move, you had to move, the music beaconing you to respond to it, it was impossible to ignore. You moved, you danced, you were alive and part of the basic primal instinct connected to mother earth feeling her rhythms pulsing through you.
Suddenly with the thump of the switch, you could be plunged into a sea of darkness suspended in time, your senses clouded by the deep expanse of black, you would be alone and the air around you would be still and motionless. Your only companion is the music covering you. In the dark you feel your body coated in the cool mist of the mushroom fog blown gently over your skin, you smell the smokes sweet cent and begin to loose yourself in this isolation. Suddenly the room explodes with flashes of light, swirling beacons of red and amber, the calm is gone, now the drive to dance harder grips you. Pools of warm colored light, swirls of magenta, streaks of white all trancing you to another state of mind. . . colors and energy driving you to move faster. You respond with all your soul, sweat pouring from you body as you surrender yourself to the sound.

Now that was the dancefloor at the Garage....

Audio System

World - Class Discotheque Sound Systems are engineered to fit each unique space with it's own design criteria. To achieve maximum impact, the system designer and the acoustician work in close harmony. The designer determines equipment requirements, while the acoustician considers interior acoustics and noise isolation. Impulse testing, equalization, T60 fine tuning TDS tests, etc. complete the installation, examples will be presented.

The sound system to be discussed is currently installed at the "Paradise Garage" in New York City. The disco is located on the second floor of a 2-story garage and contains approximately 20,000 square feet of space. An attempt to locate a disco here was made 2 years prior to the current installation. However at the time the entire 20,00 square feet of space was utilized with no subdivision into smaller areas, no acoustical treatment and an entirely inadequate sound system. The result was disastrous and the club went out of business in a short time. The current owners did not want to make the same mistakes and therefore subdivided the 20,000 square feet into a larger number of smaller areas, which included a 5000 square foot dance floor and a 2000 square foot lounge.

Initially do to lack of funds, the decision was made to hold a number of "construction parties" in the lounge while work was continued on the large dance area. The sound system from their previous location consisted of 4 horn-loaded home speakers passively crossed over, 4 scaled-up pseudo-Klipsch corner horns using 18" for sub bass crossed over electronically and 2 tweeter arrays also crossed over electronically. However this system was inadequate to handle 800 to 1000 persons in the lounge at the sound pressure levels desired by the disc jockey. At this point we were retained to design a new sound system which could be expanded as finances permitted, and eventually completely replace the old system.

The first part of the new system consisted of 4 "Waldorf" bass speakers. First used in a rental at the Waldorf Astoria, it is similar to the JBL double 15" scoop enclosure but is based on the old Jensen Imperial design. The enclosure was made larger to accommodate a larger rear loaded horn, which was designed with a hyperbolic rather than an exponential flare. The high end consisted of the largest JBL horn lens for smooth wide dispersion and the system is electronically crossed over at 80hrz These replaced the corner home-type speakers.

The next area to be improved was the sub-bass Klipsch-type speakers in the existing system. We found these speakers to be incapable of clean bass reproduction, particularly the very deep bass, at the high sound levels required. The problem was due to the exponential flare used in the design, the particular 18" driver installed in the cabinet and the small mouth area of the cabinet.

To solve this problem we designed a special sub-bass horn which is now a standard item in our line of speakers. The horn called the "Levan Horn" after the DJ consisted of 2 parts: The main cabinet which is a large "W" type hyperbolic folded horn using two 500 watt custom built 18" drivers and an extension which bolts on to the mouth of the "W" horn. The mouth of the extension is a full 8 feet wide and 3 1/2 ft high or 28 square feet. The horn is capable of awesome reproduction at very high sound pressure levels down to 30hz. One of these speakers was found to overwhelm four of the scaled-up klipsch horns all playing together.

The tweeter arrays were the only part of the original speaker system that was retained. For those of you not familiar with this item, the most common tweeter array consists of four JBL tweeters mounted on a plate at 90-degree angles to each other and hung at a height of approximately 9 feet above the dancefloor. These arrays are controlled by a special electronic crossover with gain that allows the DJ to play them at a level even higher than the main system for special effects.

The next consideration was give to designing a special full range speaker system to be used in addition to the Waldorfs when the move was made onto the 5000 square foot dancefloor. The result of this was the Ultima, which is of a modular design in three stackable sections. The base sections of the Ultima is similar to the Waldorf except it is designed with a W type horn configuration rather than single sided.

Prior to moving into the large room, the speakers location was designed as follows: Each corner of the room would contain 1 Levan sub-bass horn and one complete tri-amplified Ultima and the larger sides of the room would have at their corner point 2 Waldorfs and 2 smaller sub-bass woofers. Six tweeter arrays would be hung over the dancefloor in appropriate positions. The double amp rack to power all of the speakers was installed in the balcony area DJ Booth which overlooked the entire dancefloor.

As the main room was nearing completion and speaker locations were being chosen, it became obvious that there were serious acoustical problems with the room. The reverberation was so pervasive that workmen could not communicate with each other across the room. The reverberation curve was measured and is shown. This is an empty room T60 and would of course be lower with a crowded dancefloor. The Garage was previously a parking garage and the mostly concrete construction provided very little bass absorption.

A computer print out of this recommended treatment to the room yielded the requirements of almost 3000 sabins of broadband absorption, as shown (here). It was determined that the high exposed sidewalls would need broadband absorption to tame horizontally -traveling reflections above the dancers heads. The 1" thick 3 lb./cubic ft. destiny fiberglass used was predicted to have near perfect absorption down to 500 Hz. To reduce low-end reverberation, an arrangement of V shaped panels of the same fiberglass were hung from the ceiling. This was done with some difficulty, as the concrete ceiling required the installation of over 1000 shot-in hooks with support wires.

To achieve the desired acoustics as accurately as possible, Acoustilog usually uses a three-step measurement and adjust program with regards to the T60. This way the inevitable variation in the installation technique and materials are measured and compensated for. This doesn't cause inconvenient interruptions to the workmen because the measurement of the reverberation curve takes only 15 minuets and can be performed during lunch hour. Recommendations for absorptive treatment are deliberately made slightly shy, to avoid having to either over order material, or rip down material already installed.

After secondary tests showed T60 to be high at 63 HZ. And 125 HZ, the thickness of the side wall absorption was increased in certain areas. Additionally the skylights were used for bass absorption by significantly thickening their fiberglass treatment. By the 3rd T60 measurement session, the desired T60 of 1 second was achieved with a deviation of not more than 5% from 250 Hz. To 2 kHz. And not more than 25% from 125 Hz to 8 kHz.

The Paradise garage used a special electronic crossover designed to our specification by Alan Fierstein of Acoustilog Inc. it is a 4 way crossover with a subsonic filter at 20 hz. All filters are 18 dB/octave Butterworth. The output impedance of the crossover is necessarily low as the amplifier racks are remotely located from the DJ console, and the high cable capacitance could otherwise take it's toll in high frequency roll off. Stability consideration is also important for the same reasons. All critical elements of the crossover circuit are extremely derated for negligible heat build up and therefore high reliability. The standard ranges are 20 to 100 Hz. For sub-bass, 20 to 800 Hz for main bass, 800 to 20,000 Hz for mid range and 7,00 to 20,000 Hz for tweeters. It's most unique feature is that the two extreme ranges of 20 to 100 Hz and 7k to 20k Hz are controllable in volume by the Disc Jockey with up to 16 dB of gain built into the circuit.

The initial reaction of most audio engineers to the idea of a non-technical person such as a DJ controlling the frequency response of a sophisticated sound system is complete shock and disbelief. In order to explain our concept of a disco system, let us give this analogy: In a discotheque a sound system can be considered to be the orchestra while the DJ is the conductor. The conductor's job is to stimulate and entertain the audience; the DJ must entertain the dancers. The DJ is not reproducing the works of Bach or Brahms as performed in a symphony hall, but is instead playing music which was created in a multi-track studio under artificial conditions mixed by an engineer also attempting to create the most exciting sound possible.

There can be no doubt that many people, especially those trained in music and audio sciences, have been at one time or another to a disco and been totally offended by the sound. Ones first reaction was probably that the music was too loud, but of course this is not the whole answer. The quality of the components, particularly the speakers, is one potential source of offensive sound, but more important is the relative loudness of the various frequency ranges. For example, sub-bass is ranged below 100 Hz when played at 110 dB SPL is not annoying at all whereas upper mid range from 2k to 4k Hz at 110dB is extremely offensive. A prominent mid range around 500 Hz with a lack of mid bass around 100 to 200 Hz can be very annoying.

In other words, the frequency response must be tailored to be smooth with no prominent peaks or dips while at the same time de accentuating certain frequency ranges which can be offensive at high sound pressure levels common in most discotheques. When properly done the result will be a pleasing and exciting sound with no offensive or listener fatigue even at continuos high sound pressure levels. For the same reason by giving the DJ control over the extreme low end and extreme high end but not allowing him any control over the main full frequency range, he is allowed to create extremely exciting sound effects without affecting the overall balance.

Another advantage to achieving a smooth and accurate equalization characteristic is the immunity from feedback such as a curve provides. The Garage frequently hosts live acts on a huge stage and complete professionalism is expected, from mandatory sound checks to a lack of feedback during the shows. Maintaining a stable system, with adequate microphone volume to match the loud music, while the performer may walk to within 10 feet of a full range speaker stack, is no easy trick and the equalization plays a major role in allowing this. Furthermore, the shows are recorded live and subsequently aired over a major New York FM station which accentuates the need for a complete absence of annoying ringing and howls.

Because of the large bass horns we use in most of our installations along with the special crossover, the potential for feedback through the turntables was of particular concern. This was solved by our development of a very simple means of suspending the turntables on a platform, which is floating on an elastic suspension consisting of $1.00 worth of rubber bands. The natural frequency of this system is approximately 2 Hz, which provides vibration isolation at the lowest frequency produced in the system, which is 30 Hz.

Since the DJ is responsible for creating an exciting sound we try to make sure he has enough tools at his disposal. Such special effects devices are 1. Our special electronic crossover (discussed earlier); 2. The DBX boom box, which provides a blend of 25 - 50 Hz bass, synthesized from 50 - 100 Hz information present on the recording; 3. Dynamic Range Expanders, used to undo compression found in most recordings; 4. The Deltalab Acousticomputer and similar devices used to alter or add to the sound of the recording; 5. The Audionics Space & Image Composer, a 4 channel synthesizer; and 6. New devices currently under development, such as the Acoustilog Image enhancer which expands the stereo effect. All of these devices except the last two are currently installed at the Garage.

The Deltalab Acousticomputer hookup deserves special mention. This special effect unit is installed in a loop within the full- range circuit of the electronic crossover. However the complexity of the unit and the wide range of sounds it can produce requires that the parameters be preset carefully before bringing the device into the actual sound system. There fore a special pre-cueing switch, along with a house blending control, was incorporated into the main mixer. Once the DJ has achieved the sound he wants in his headset, he can either abruptly or gradually bring the effect into play.

In Disco installations, and particularly at the Garage, it is important to coordinate the design of the DJ console and control electronics with the desires of the DJ whenever possible. The special console of the garage satisfies all the needs of the garage DJ, putting all the control electronics, which he uses immediately at his fingertips. It may be interesting to note that the front angle portion housing the electronics is controlled by a motor driven mechanism allowing the DJ to instantly change the tilt angle. Monitor speakers, when required, are installed to satisfy the Disc Jockey's need to hear the system in the booth without the time delayed sound arriving from the main speakers affecting his sense of timing.

About two years after the full garage system had been installed, a device designed by Acoustilog called the Impulser allowed us to easily impulse-test the entire system for phase alignment and polarity. We found the entire system to be in correct polarity except for the sub-bass horns. One of the speaker cables had been accidentally ripped out of the connector and rewired in reverse by the Garage maintenance crew. With this horns output essentially canceling that of another bass horns, the Garage's sub-bass output of four speakers had been effectively reduced to that of two. Now, we always impulse test new sound systems for polarity agreement prior to final equalization.

All of the above considerations have resulted in the garage winning every award for the best Disco Sound System ever given by Billboard's International Disco Forums.

Lighting System

The Lighting system at the Paradise Garage was tremendous to say the least. No other club in the city had a system like this. The Dancefloor alone had over 730 lighting fixtures rigged from the ceiling. The stage and other lounges had a base set up of about 40 fixtures minimum. During special parties and events the number of lighting fixtures in the lounges would increase in size depending on the complexity of the design.

Dancefloor: The 730 fixtures were broken down into 10 effect elements which had a power consumption of 1087 amps. Now this is a basic figure of amperage use as an actual reading was impossible, but the combined wattage of the majority of fixtures on the dancefloor came close to this number. If we broke this down into a 3 phase power distribution, that would distribute the load to 362 amps per leg. Now remember that this is power consumption based on the assumption that all the lighting would be turned on full, which as we know was not the case, my point here is just to give you an idea of the potential power that was being generated on dancefloor lighting alone.

As awesome as the lighting system turned out to be, it was not so in the beginning. From what I understand the design started off very small with a dozen or so pin spots and a basic wash. This earlier system was before my time at the club, so I really couldn't’t tell you who installed it or what was put in first. However I can tell you that the lighting system and its design evolved constantly right up until the time the club closed. The final look of the dancefloor lighting towards the end in 1987 was deigned by Peter Munoz and put in place by him and I.
Lighting System

The Lighting system at the Paradise Garage was tremendous to say the least. No other club in the city had a system like this. The Dancefloor alone had over 730 lighting fixtures rigged from the ceiling. The stage and other lounges had a base set up of about 40 fixtures minimum. During special parties and events the number of lighting fixtures in the lounges would increase in size depending on the complexity of the design.

Dancefloor: The 730 fixtures were broken down into 10 effect elements which had a power consumption of 1087 amps. Now this is a basic figure of amperage use as an actual reading was impossible, but the combined wattage of the majority of fixtures on the dancefloor came close to this number. If we broke this down into a 3 phase power distribution, that would distribute the load to 362 amps per leg. Now remember that this is power consumption based on the assumption that all the lighting would be turned on full, which as we know was not the case, my point here is just to give you an idea of the potential power that was being generated on dancefloor lighting alone.

As awesome as the lighting system turned out to be, it was not so in the beginning. From what I understand the design started off very small with a dozen or so pin spots and a basic wash. This earlier system was before my time at the club, so I really couldn't’t tell you who installed it or what was put in first. However I can tell you that the lighting system and its design evolved constantly right up until the time the club closed. The final look of the dancefloor lighting towards the end in 1987 was deigned by Peter Munoz and put in place by him and I.

From 1983 until it closed in 1987, if we talk about who was the "Lightman" at the Garage I can say to you officially that there wasn't one. In reality what you had was the tech crew who were in charge of the maintenance and lighting design, and then you had the man who ran the parties Larry Levan.
Larry Levan pretty much did the lighting for himself as he was a lighting guy before he started to dj. However, he did have a few people in his entourage who would from time to time stand on the lighting pedestal and do the lighting for him during the evening. However, in the end Larry almost always did the lighting when he would play.
What happened mostly on the weekends was I did the lighting during the opening hours for David Depino and Joey Llanos as they warmed up for Larry. . ..On the nights that Larry didn't come in I or Peter Munoz usually stayed and played for the night.

Standing at the lighting controls in the DJ booth of the Garage was like standing on the bridge of the Enterprise. For someone who didn't’t understand it, it could have been a bit over-whelming. Just imagine staring at 15 lighting control boards laid out on a console that was 6 foot long and 4 foot wide . . Truly awesome.
The reason for this visual complexity were the 10 effect elements on the dancefloor. So the first thing we understand is there were 10 different lighting control boards, plus 4 sub controllers That did the color switching and things like strobes and Cannons and the smoke machines. And lastly there was the Master controller called the ND5, which was the conduit for all of the lighting controls to the Dance floor.
Lighting boards in those days were more user friendly than they are today. The boards back then were built to take a pounding, the constant toggle switching, and the brute force a light man uses when he is in the midst of doing a light show. You can’t put the newer boards of today under this sort of punishment due to the fact everything now is computer oriented and touch sensitive. I have laid many a light board to rest since leaving the Garage, so I have first hand experience. Now-a-days every lighting board has gone theater . . Bah!

Anyway, The concept behind the lighting console at the Garage was this. Each controller was linked to the ND5 (main controller) which gave you a preview option on that particular lighting effect. This preview option enabled you to make speed and intensity corrections before sending the effect live to the dancefloor. To assist you in this preview, each effect controller had a system of LED’s on it’s face which made the previews easy to read. If the DJ was in the middle of his mix, you could easily match the incoming song temp perfectly and when the DJ laid the mix in, you could fade the lighting in with the music. That to me is the best and only way to do lighting in a nightclub, seamless. . .

The Paradise Garage was definitely ahead of it's time in regards to the sound and lighting systems,




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Paradise Garage Sound System

World - Class Discotheque Sound Systems are engineered to fit each unique space with it's own design criteria. To achieve maximum impact, the system designer and the acoustician work in close harmony. The designer determines equipment requirements, while the acoustician considers interior acoustics and noise isolation. Impulse testing, equalization, T60 fine tuning TDS tests, etc. complete the installation, examples will be presented.

The sound system to be discussed is currently installed at the "Paradise Garage" in New York City. The disco is located on the second floor of a 2-story garage and contains approximately 20,000 square feet of space. An attempt to locate a disco here was made 2 years prior to the current installation. However at the time the entire 20,00 square feet of space was utilized with no subdivision into smaller areas, no acoustical treatment and an entirely inadequate sound system.

The result was disastrous and the club went out of business in a short time. The current owners did not want to make the same mistakes and therefore subdivided the 20,000 square feet into a larger number of smaller areas, which included a 5000 square foot dance floor and a 2000 square foot lounge.

Initially do to lack of funds, the decision was made to hold a number of "construction parties" in the lounge while work was continued on the large dance area. The sound system from their previous location consisted of 4 horn-loaded home speakers passively crossed over, 4 scaled-up pseudo-Klipsch corner horns using 18" for sub bass crossed over electronically and 2 tweeter arrays also crossed over electronically. However this system was inadequate to handle 800 to 1000 persons in the lounge at the sound pressure levels desired by the disc jockey. At this point we were retained to design a new sound system which could be expanded as finances permitted, and eventually completely replace the old system.

The first part of the new system consisted of 4 "Waldorf" bass speakers. First used in a rental at the Waldorf Astoria, it is similar to the JBL double 15" scoop enclosure but is based on the old Jensen Imperial design. The enclosure was made larger to accommodate a larger rear loaded horn, which was designed with a hyperbolic rather than an exponential flare. The high end consisted of the largest JBL horn lens for smooth wide dispersion and the system is electronically crossed over at 80hrz These replaced the corner home-type speakers.

The next area to be improved was the sub-bass Klipsch-type speakers in the existing system. We found these speakers to be incapable of clean bass reproduction, particularly the very deep bass, at the high sound levels required. The problem was due to the exponential flare used in the design, the particular 18" driver installed in the cabinet and the small mouth area of the cabinet.

To solve this problem we designed a special sub-bass horn which is now a standard item in our line of speakers. The horn called the "Levan Horn" after the DJ consisted of 2 parts: The main cabinet which is a large "W" type hyperbolic folded horn using two 500 watt custom built 18" drivers and an extension which bolts on to the mouth of the "W" horn. The mouth of the extension is a full 8 feet wide and 3 1/2 ft high or 28 square feet. The horn is capable of awesome reproduction at very high sound pressure levels down to 30hz. One of these speakers was found to overwhelm four of the scaled-up klipsch horns all playing together.

The tweeter arrays were the only part of the original speaker system that was retained. For those of you not familiar with this item, the most common tweeter array consists of four JBL tweeters mounted on a plate at 90-degree angles to each other and hung at a height of approximately 9 feet above the dancefloor. These arrays are controlled by a special electronic crossover with gain that allows the DJ to play them at a level even higher than the main system for special effects.

The next consideration was give to designing a special full range speaker system to be used in addition to the Waldorfs when the move was made onto the 5000 square foot dancefloor. The result of this was the Ultima, which is of a modular design in three stackable sections. The base sections of the Ultima is similar to the Waldorf except it is designed with a W type horn configuration rather than single sided.

Prior to moving into the large room, the speakers location was designed as follows: Each corner of the room would contain 1 Levan sub-bass horn and one complete tri-amplified Ultima and the larger sides of the room would have at their corner point 2 Waldorfs and 2 smaller sub-bass woofers. Six tweeter arrays would be hung over the dancefloor in appropriate positions. The double amp rack to power all of the speakers was installed in the balcony area DJ Booth which overlooked the entire dancefloor.

As the main room was nearing completion and speaker locations were being chosen, it became obvious that there were serious acoustical problems with the room. The reverberation was so pervasive that workmen could not communicate with each other across the room. The reverberation curve was measured and is shown. This is an empty room T60 and would of course be lower with a crowded dancefloor. The Garage was previously a parking garage and the mostly concrete construction provided very little bass absorption.

A computer print out of this recommended treatment to the room yielded the requirements of almost 3000 sabins of broadband absorption, as shown (here). It was determined that the high exposed sidewalls would need broadband absorption to tame horizontally -traveling reflections above the dancers heads. The 1" thick 3 lb./cubic ft. destiny fiberglass used was predicted to have near perfect absorption down to 500 Hz. To reduce low-end reverberation, an arrangement of V shaped panels of the same fiberglass were hung from the ceiling. This was done with some difficulty, as the concrete ceiling required the installation of over 1000 shot-in hooks with support wires.

To achieve the desired acoustics as accurately as possible, Acoustilog usually uses a three-step measurement and adjust program with regards to the T60. This way the inevitable variation in the installation technique and materials are measured and compensated for. This doesn't cause inconvenient interruptions to the workmen because the measurement of the reverberation curve takes only 15 minutes and can be performed during lunch hour. Recommendations for absorptive treatment are deliberately made slightly shy, to avoid having to either over order material, or rip down material already installed.

After secondary tests showed T60 to be high at 63 HZ. And 125 HZ, the thickness of the side wall absorption was increased in certain areas. Additionally the skylights were used for bass absorption by significantly thickening their fiberglass treatment. By the 3rd T60 measurement session, the desired T60 of 1 second was achieved with a deviation of not more than 5% from 250 Hz. To 2 kHz. And not more than 25% from 125 Hz to 8 kHz.

The Paradise Garage used a special electronic crossover designed to our specification by Alan Fierstein of Acoustilog Inc. it is a 4 way crossover with a subsonic filter at 20 hz. All filters are 18 dB/octave Butterworth. The output impedance of the crossover is necessarily low as the amplifier racks are remotely located from the DJ console, and the high cable capacitance could otherwise take it's toll in high frequency roll off. Stability consideration is also important for the same reasons. All critical elements of the crossover circuit are extremely derated for negligible heat build up and therefore high reliability. The standard ranges are 20 to 100 Hz. For sub-bass, 20 to 800 Hz for main bass, 800 to 20,000 Hz for mid range and 7,00 to 20,000 Hz for tweeters. It's most unique feature is that the two extreme ranges of 20 to 100 Hz and 7k to 20k Hz are controllable in volume by the Disc Jockey with up to 16 dB of gain built into the circuit.

The initial reaction of most audio engineers to the idea of a non-technical person such as a DJ controlling the frequency response of a sophisticated sound system is complete shock and disbelief. In order to explain our concept of a disco system, let us give this analogy: In a discotheque a sound system can be considered to be the orchestra while the DJ is the conductor. The conductor's job is to stimulate and entertain the audience; the DJ must entertain the dancers. The DJ is not reproducing the works of Bach or Brahms as performed in a symphony hall, but is instead playing music which was created in a multi-track studio under artificial conditions mixed by an engineer also attempting to create the most exciting sound possible.

There can be no doubt that many people, especially those trained in music and audio sciences, have been at one time or another to a disco and been totally offended by the sound. Ones first reaction was probably that the music was too loud, but of course this is not the whole answer. The quality of the components, particularly the speakers, is one potential source of offensive sound, but more important is the relative loudness of the various frequency ranges. For example, sub-bass is ranged below 100 Hz when played at 110 dB SPL is not annoying at all whereas upper mid range from 2k to 4k Hz at 110dB is extremely offensive. A prominent mid range around 500 Hz with a lack of mid bass around 100 to 200 Hz can be very annoying.

In other words, the frequency response must be tailored to be smooth with no prominent peaks or dips while at the same time de accentuating certain frequency ranges which can be offensive at high sound pressure levels common in most discotheques. When properly done the result will be a pleasing and exciting sound with no offensive or listener fatigue even at continuos high sound pressure levels. For the same reason by giving the DJ control over the extreme low end and extreme high end but not allowing him any control over the main full frequency range, he is allowed to create extremely exciting sound effects without affecting the overall balance.

Another advantage to achieving a smooth and accurate equalization characteristic is the immunity from feedback such as a curve provides. The Garage frequently hosts live acts on a huge stage and complete professionalism is expected, from mandatory sound checks to a lack of feedback during the shows. Maintaining a stable system, with adequate microphone volume to match the loud music, while the performer may walk to within 10 feet of a full range speaker stack, is no easy trick and the equalization plays a major role in allowing this. Furthermore, the shows are recorded live and subsequently aired over a major New York FM station which accentuates the need for a complete absence of annoying ringing and howls.

Because of the large bass horns we use in most of our installations along with the special crossover, the potential for feedback through the turntables was of particular concern. This was solved by our development of a very simple means of suspending the turntables on a platform, which is floating on an elastic suspension consisting of $1.00 worth of rubber bands. The natural frequency of this system is approximately 2 Hz, which provides vibration isolation at the lowest frequency produced in the system, which is 30 Hz.

Since the DJ is responsible for creating an exciting sound we try to make sure he has enough tools at his disposal. Such special effects devices are

  • 1. Our special electronic crossover (discussed earlier);
  • 2. The DBX boom box, which provides a blend of 25 - 50 Hz bass, synthesized from 50 - 100 Hz information present on the recording;
  • 3. Dynamic Range Expanders, used to undo compression found in most recordings;
  • 4. The Deltalab Acousticomputer and similar devices used to alter or add to the sound of the recording;
  • 5. The Audionics Space & Image Composer, a 4 channel synthesizer; and
  • 6. New devices currently under development, such as the Acoustilog Image enhancer which expands the stereo effect. All of these devices except the last two are currently installed at the Garage

The Deltalab Acousticomputer hookup deserves special mention. This special effect unit is installed in a loop within the full- range circuit of the electronic crossover. However the complexity of the unit and the wide range of sounds it can produce requires that the parameters be preset carefully before bringing the device into the actual sound system. There fore a special pre-cueing switch, along with a house blending control, was incorporated into the main mixer. Once the DJ has achieved the sound he wants in his headset, he can either abruptly or gradually bring the effect into play.

In Disco installations, and particularly at the Garage, it is important to coordinate the design of the DJ console and control electronics with the desires of the DJ whenever possible. The special console of the garage satisfies all the needs of the garage DJ, putting all the control electronics, which he uses immediately at his fingertips. It may be interesting to note that the front angle portion housing the electronics is controlled by a motor driven mechanism allowing the DJ to instantly change the tilt angle. Monitor speakers, when required, are installed to satisfy the Disc Jockey's need to hear the system in the booth without the time delayed sound arriving from the main speakers affecting his sense of timing.

About two years after the full garage system had been installed, a device designed by Acoustilog called the Impulser allowed us to easily impulse-test the entire system for phase alignment and polarity. We found the entire system to be in correct polarity except for the sub-bass horns. One of the speaker cables had been accidentally ripped out of the connector and rewired in reverse by the Garage maintenance crew. With this horns output essentially canceling that of another bass horns, the Garage's sub-bass output of four speakers had been effectively reduced to that of two. Now, we always impulse test new sound systems for polarity agreement prior to final equalization.

All of the above considerations have resulted in the garage winning every award for the best Disco Sound System ever given by Billboard's International Disco Forums.

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Very nice too Ian, you have been busy. I remember the DBX boom box as some of them made it over here too. I don't know how much power they used but can guarantee it was only a few thousand watts and would still blow most of the "50k" rigs of today clean into the weeds. 
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Yep,that DBX boombox was lethal,do you remember the club Stage 3 in Leysdown in Kent Lee?....They had one,they blew every Altec 15 inch driver the first night they used it! LOL
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Clap seen a lot of that before but nice to have it all in one place.
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just built 6 decware imperials which are very similar to the old jensen/waldorf cabs. Took 4 out to do the cabaret stage at this years peace in the park festival in sheffield, the usual bass amp was away being serviced so we ended up running them off a matrix str1200 so they were getting around 300w a cab. was pretty pokey for a 1.5k rig ;)

the can be seen at the start of this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSs8UNjqK8k and heard (albeit through camera phone mic) here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bY57yx0x4Q



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Made my night reading that lot. Nice one Ian!
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Yes I do remember Stage 3, on the Isle of Sheppey!?!? What a laugh that was. Funnily enough I picked some old equipment up from near there late last year, I was pleased to see they had built a new bridge to get on to the island at long last. Can't remember the DJ's name right now but they played the right music and the girls as always were lovely. One a more serious note, blowing all the Altec drivers in one night? That must have hacked the owners off big time, should have sounded good though. Whilst we are on the subject of Kentish venues, did you ever get to Flicks in Dartford? I still rate Colin Hudd as possibly one of the best mix artists of the day. They had one or two original Big Bertha's at the edge of the dance floor as I remember and for a converted cinema it didn't sound too bad to me. Last time I was there it was at an all nighter with Colin & Robbie Vincent but my memory isn't up to recalling the other DJ that night.
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Ian, you have reminded me of a funny situation years ago. I went to look at an installation in Basildon, some friends had done the job, and they were using our Horns for the system. I saw the Boom Box in place and then I looked at the Graphic EQ. All the bass was cut. I always thought that was amusing.
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Originally posted by oldskool oldskool wrote:

Ian.
 
Yes I do remember Stage 3, on the Isle of Sheppey!?!? What a laugh that was. Funnily enough I picked some old equipment up from near there late last year, I was pleased to see they had built a new bridge to get on to the island at long last. Can't remember the DJ's name right now but they played the right music and the girls as always were lovely. One a more serious note, blowing all the Altec drivers in one night? That must have hacked the owners off big time, should have sounded good though. Whilst we are on the subject of Kentish venues, did you ever get to Flicks in Dartford? I still rate Colin Hudd as possibly one of the best mix artists of the day. They had one or two original Big Bertha's at the edge of the dance floor as I remember and for a converted cinema it didn't sound too bad to me. Last time I was there it was at an all nighter with Colin & Robbie Vincent but my memory isn't up to recalling the other DJ that night.
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We used to call him captain hornblower at the shop I'll leave you to guess why, I used to spend a fair amount of my  time on a Saturday morning fitting new diaphragms in those renkus drivers not an easy task when somewhat hungover and perched on top of a ladder 30 feet in the air (and the cabs were suspended on wires).
They was only one of the large bass cabs at Flicks, we did originally fit two but had to take one out as it was too much.
There was three systems in flicks, a mono system (Berth and mid/hi above it) a stereo system (4 x almost full range cabs above the dance floor, and an infill system of HH pro150's

The whole system was driven by 1 X V800 (1 channel on bass the other driving the mid/high cab above it) and the rest of the system was powered by HH V150 mono amp's the most problematic bit of kit was the KT 27 band graphic which the Dj's used to mess with (hence the blown horns)
Lovely simple system though for a club of it's size.
I have on or two pics somewhere I captured off the net I'll see if I can find them.
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Great read, thanks Ian!

Particularly interested in the acoustic treatment. The only acoustic treatment I've seen in any of the (admittedly relatively small number) of clubs I've worked in was put in by a fellow SP'er (thanks Ollie!).

From my limited understanding of system optimization (mainly garnered from Bob Mcarthy's book) this is an area that, done well (as it sounds was the case at the Garage) allows for vast improvements in the quality of sound in a club.
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