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MarjanM
Old Croc Joined: 10 February 2005 Location: Macedonia Status: Offline Points: 7810 |
Posted: 01 November 2014 at 2:15am | |
Its coming along. i hope will be big enough for both of them :-)
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Marjan Milosevic
MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
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Phil B
Old Croc Joined: 21 November 2004 Location: Melbourne Status: Online Points: 2322 |
Posted: 01 November 2014 at 5:59am | |
Haven`t spoken to anyone yet but I got a text during the show which just said "everything being overdriven from stage !! and desk all wrong!!" so who knows what actually went wrong? That size system should have been up to scratch with the others there??? Anyway it`s good to see you back Rog.... Now about your new line array in a cross breeze..... I`ll get my coat... .p.
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toastyghost
The 10,000 Points Club Joined: 09 January 2007 Location: Manchester Status: Offline Points: 10920 |
Posted: 01 November 2014 at 7:23am | |
Marjan I personally helped pin those boxes in several different groups of angles, the rear most captive piece, whilst not labeled due to the very rapid nature of profuctoion, offered six angle settings.
The rigging hardware could use some improvement in my opinion but for a first try on a box this size it was far from bad. It was definitely better than VDOSC and on a prototype that's very good. Your double 8 box is very light, no? When you have hangs of 1 ton before frames then I'm sure things need to change a bit, and nobody gets it bang on first time. My main opinion is that from a year or so of using an Air Array, it sounded very similar but scaled. As Dave said, it somewhat matched the standard systems, that's a huge achievement even disregarding the size of a company like Void compared to K1. |
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R Mogale
Registered User Joined: 31 October 2014 Location: Tibet Status: Offline Points: 76 |
Posted: 01 November 2014 at 10:19am | |
As said above, splay between cabs is adjustable. Not much point designing a non adjustable flying system is there really.
@ Phil. Crosswinds, I was just lucky that 20,000 kids didn't all fart at once. Could of been a huge brown out if they did. @ Mikey. Yeah, would have loved some nice ally, but we did the stress analysis and it showed that ally would not have been strong enough. The system has to be able to cope with a 10 to 1 ratio with a fall (snatch) of 1 meter, so that would be a force of over 10 tons. @ Kyle. Is 'somewhat' the new word for, we're play it down as to not to piss them off quite yet. |
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MarjanM
Old Croc Joined: 10 February 2005 Location: Macedonia Status: Offline Points: 7810 |
Posted: 01 November 2014 at 10:38am | |
Guys, that is exactly what i said. Rigging can be improved. I didnt bashed the product. Its the exact opposite.
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Marjan Milosevic
MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
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KidCreole
Old Croc Joined: 06 November 2013 Location: London (East) Status: Offline Points: 3600 |
Posted: 01 November 2014 at 11:08am | |
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Mykey Wattco
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KidCreole
Old Croc Joined: 06 November 2013 Location: London (East) Status: Offline Points: 3600 |
Posted: 01 November 2014 at 11:09am | |
I prefer stainless my self Rog. If you had used alloy this lot and bell bottoms would have accused you of copying
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Mykey Wattco
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MarjanM
Old Croc Joined: 10 February 2005 Location: Macedonia Status: Offline Points: 7810 |
Posted: 01 November 2014 at 11:17am | |
Steel is the way to go. That box is big and heavy. Aluminium would have to be quite thick, and it wears out much faster under load.
Now silver or black, mater of taste pretty much. Personally i would done it Void red.
Edited by MarjanM - 01 November 2014 at 11:24am |
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Marjan Milosevic
MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
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jazomir
Old Croc Joined: 20 November 2006 Location: Sunderland UK Status: Offline Points: 1710 |
Posted: 01 November 2014 at 12:54pm | |
I was watching a vid earlier this week showing the construction and rigging of a stage for a stadium gig in the States that used 230 tons of steel. I spotted 4 cranes and numerous fork lifts being used (and that was inside the stadium) so I don't think a few 'wardrobes'would cause any problem. Even the Danley Caleb & BC218 would be no problem on any stadium tour - it's all 'horses for course' in the end. |
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For sidefills, can we have two enormous things of a type that might be venerated as Gods by the inhabitants of Easter Island, capable of reaching volumes that would make Beelzebub soil his pants.
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MattStolton
Old Croc Joined: 04 September 2010 Location: Walthamstow Status: Offline Points: 4234 |
Posted: 01 November 2014 at 1:20pm | |
But isn't most of the reason for "Line Arrays" rigging ease? Most people are starting to come around to the truth that Cylindrical wavefront is BS, so it is down to ease of rigging and shifting/truck pack.
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Matt Stolton - Technical Director (!!!) - Wilding Sound Ltd
"Sparkius metiretur vestra" - "Meter Your Mains" |
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R Mogale
Registered User Joined: 31 October 2014 Location: Tibet Status: Offline Points: 76 |
Posted: 01 November 2014 at 1:27pm | |
This is just perfect, looks like how it felt to be there. Love the camera shaking with the bass. |
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azlan
Registered User Joined: 09 January 2012 Location: W12 Status: Offline Points: 364 |
Posted: 01 November 2014 at 1:29pm | |
It's a mix of ease of rigging, granularity of control (taking advantage of the tight vertical dispersion per box to do array shading), ease of scaleability, and the fact that a vertical colum may block less sight lines, and leave more space on stage for LX and VT
Edit: it's also so a hire Co can stock 2 or 3 types of box to cover all their gigs, instead of having 6 or 7 Edited by azlan - 01 November 2014 at 1:32pm |
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