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    Posted: 17 February 2015 at 7:20pm
Hi guys, I've searched but is there any way of looking at an amps secs to determine how it will sound? Reason is, friend of mine uses Peavey IPR2 5000 amps for his bass, he borrowed one of my Behringer NU6000s to play on bass and the difference was so big. Yes the NU6000 has more power but the bass note was so much more heavy an tighter.
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Maybe more distortion? I´m quite surprised that the Berry sounded that much better than the Peavey. In any case, they´re both pretty cheap class D, not the most reliable amp to use on bass duty.


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Originally posted by vectrasoundz vectrasoundz wrote:


Hi guys, I've searched but is there any way of looking at an amps secs
to determine how it will sound? Reason is, friend of mine uses Peavey
IPR2 5000 amps for his bass, he borrowed one of my Behringer NU6000s to play on bass and the difference was so big. Yes the NU6000 has more power but the bass note was so much more heavy an tighter.


Unless he measured the output voltage of both amplifiers so they will match in terms of output before making a comparison, the comparison is not fair.

The video below shows how one matches the output voltage of two amplifiers to make a fair comparison amongst the two




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Originally posted by vectrasoundz vectrasoundz wrote:

is there any way of looking at an amps secs to determine how it will sound?
  No.

Originally posted by vectrasoundz vectrasoundz wrote:

friend of mine uses Peavey IPR2 5000 amps for his bass, he borrowed one of my Behringer NU6000s to play on bass and the difference was so big.
More power always sounds better.

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Originally posted by Earplug Earplug wrote:

Maybe more distortion? I´m quite surprised that the Berry sounded that much better than the Peavey. In any case, they´re both pretty cheap class D, not the most reliable amp to use on bass duty.


I know, but we dont have a lot of options herein Barbados. The dealer for Crown sells an XTi6002 for around  2000 pounds
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Originally posted by Elliot Thompson Elliot Thompson wrote:


 
Originally posted by vectrasoundz vectrasoundz wrote:


Hi guys, I've searched but is there any way of looking at an amps secs
to determine how it will sound? Reason is, friend of mine uses Peavey
IPR2 5000 amps for his bass, he borrowed one of my Behringer NU6000s to play on bass and the difference was so big. Yes the NU6000 has more power but the bass note was so much more heavy an tighter.


Unless he measured the output voltage of both amplifiers so they will match in terms of output before making a comparison, the comparison is not fair.

The video below shows how one matches the output voltage of two amplifiers to make a fair comparison amongst the two




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We arent that technical, but any any volume played the berry just sounded heavier. We have a IPR2 7500 also, Berry isnt as powerful but it still sounds better.
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Thats because the peavy has a cleaner sound and where the berry has a much higher THD it "sounds" heavier. You can ALMOST get the same result using a guitar distortion pedal and sticking it before the bass amp and just apply the tinyest amount of distortion... just a tiny tiny bit and that peavy will sound just as heavy and with alot more SPL.

If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down.
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I could buy alot of quality second hand amps for 2,000.  What voltage are you guys on?
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I'm serious, I could buy between 10 and 20 amps for that and put an amp per driver.  I would much rather go down this route than buy a new Berry or Peavey and put it under 4ohm bridge.  But that is me, I lost my way 20-30 years ago. LOL
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Originally posted by burningbush burningbush wrote:

I could buy alot of quality second hand amps for 2,000.  What voltage are you guys on?



I do believe you are forgeting the exchange rate of the dollar.

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Originally posted by vectrasoundz vectrasoundz wrote:

Originally posted by Earplug Earplug wrote:

Maybe more distortion? I´m quite surprised that the Berry sounded that much better than the Peavey. In any case, they´re both pretty cheap class D, not the most reliable amp to use on bass duty.


I know, but we dont have a lot of options herein Barbados. The dealer for Crown sells an XTi6002 for around  2000 pounds

You're doing ok then. List price including VAT in the UK is £2700.
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Originally posted by vectrasoundz vectrasoundz wrote:

Originally posted by Elliot Thompson Elliot Thompson wrote:


 
Originally posted by vectrasoundz vectrasoundz wrote:


Hi guys, I've searched but is there any way of looking at an amps secs
to determine how it will sound? Reason is, friend of mine uses Peavey
IPR2 5000 amps for his bass, he borrowed one of my Behringer NU6000s to play on bass and the difference was so big. Yes the NU6000 has more power but the bass note was so much more heavy an tighter.


Unless he measured the output voltage of both amplifiers so they will match in terms of output before making a comparison, the comparison is not fair.

The video below shows how one matches the output voltage of two amplifiers to make a fair comparison amongst the two





Best Regards,



We arent that technical, but any any volume played the berry just sounded heavier. We have a IPR2 7500 also, Berry isnt as powerful but it still sounds better.


It could be distortion, excessive mid-bass build up which tends to do wonders for Reggae or a combination of the two. If you really want to know and eliminate the possibilities, you will need to step up your technical skill levels.

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