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   I'm looking to get a mixer and audio interface to run DAW software so i need some recommendations.
the mixer has to have at least 16 channels, 2 send/returns and the interface outputs must go to the mixer (if thats how its done)

cheers

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kr1sounds Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Young Croc Joined: 28 June 2014 Location: ThePromiseLand Status: Offline Points: 920	Post Options Post Reply Quote kr1sounds Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: To all studio owners/producers Posted: 01 March 2015 at 8:35pm
	I'm looking to get a mixer and audio interface to run DAW software so i need some recommendations. the mixer has to have at least 16 channels, 2 send/returns and the interface outputs must go to the mixer (if thats how its done) cheers
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kr1sounds Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Young Croc Joined: 28 June 2014 Location: ThePromiseLand Status: Offline Points: 920	Post Options Post Reply Quote kr1sounds Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 March 2015 at 8:44pm
	i think i'll need a digital to analogue converter
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kevinmcdonough Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 27 June 2005 Location: Glasgow Status: Offline Points: 3751	Post Options Post Reply Quote kevinmcdonough Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 March 2015 at 11:10pm
	hey A bit more detail is probably required: Do you mean a digital mixer or an analogue one? How many channels do you plan to record at once? Assuming the desk is analogue, after the recording are you happy to mix inside the PC or do you want an in line desk to mix the output again on the desk faders? Budget? k Edited by kevinmcdonough - 01 March 2015 at 11:10pm

Danny A Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 30 May 2009 Status: Offline Points: 444	Post Options Post Reply Quote Danny A Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 March 2015 at 11:58pm
	midas venice F?, nice little hybrid analogue mixer with a 32x32 firewire audio interface built in. nice and flexable front end for your studio with some analogue summing for good measure Edited by Danny A - 02 March 2015 at 12:00am

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	A friend of mine has a Phonic Helix 24 Firewire for sale, if that helps.
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70,s hero Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Young Croc Joined: 14 December 2014 Location: bristol Status: Offline Points: 637	Post Options Post Reply Quote 70,s hero Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 March 2015 at 12:09pm
	Budget is a defining issue here, Desks with good ADAC are expensive,that said as always it depends on your preferences,if its a pro set up and you have a limited budget,there are loads of ways to ensure a reasonable quality.IMO buy a second hand decent computer and screen from ebay,(they sell recon ones for around 200.. equip it with a decent sound card... assuming that the computer is compatible... buy some decent sofware ie, multitrack recording and then choose a good desk for the input side of things with again a decent perhaps built in ADAC.(you could use a separate sound card). Failing that,there are multitrack recorders out there that are O.K. that will allow you to export in DAW. .... to a computer which will need the software also.
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kr1sounds Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Young Croc Joined: 28 June 2014 Location: ThePromiseLand Status: Offline Points: 920	Post Options Post Reply Quote kr1sounds Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 March 2015 at 8:14pm
	i know that these things arent cheap so £1500 -2000 is my limit. if thats high enough
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Grubbah Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Old Croc Joined: 14 July 2011 Location: Portsmouth Status: Offline Points: 2004	Post Options Post Reply Quote Grubbah Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 March 2015 at 8:50pm
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guitarplayerjoe Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 31 August 2011 Location: Manchester Status: Offline Points: 194	Post Options Post Reply Quote guitarplayerjoe Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 March 2015 at 11:01am
	Is that 1500 for the desk and converter together or 1500 for each one? For that price you can get the ZED R16 with 16 i/o, which has both the desk and ad/da built into one, as well as a MIDI interface which could be quite handy... Midas and Mackie have similar products with the F-series and 1640-i as well... Or, if you want to go separate then maybe something like a Soundcraft Ghost and a Digidesign 192? It's all second hand but you'd get better conversion and a better desk for the same price. Maybe even check out the Mackie 8-bus and Delta 1010 which you could probably pick up pretty cheap? I know a few people using the Delta 1010 although I think they're getting a bit too dated now...

guitarplayerjoe Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 31 August 2011 Location: Manchester Status: Offline Points: 194	Post Options Post Reply Quote guitarplayerjoe Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 March 2015 at 11:20am
	Soundtracs used to make good desks as well... a friend of mine managed to pick up an MRX 32 for something like 200 quid... or maybe hunt down a CM4400?

70,s hero Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Young Croc Joined: 14 December 2014 Location: bristol Status: Offline Points: 637	Post Options Post Reply Quote 70,s hero Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 March 2015 at 11:55am
	1500 should do it, like the other fellas said, if you can get a good second hand desk,then that would be the way to go. Also, when you get in to it, you will most likely want some plugins for the P.C. If you are fresh to this as I was not long ago, it is a bit of a learning curve with whatever set up you decide on,there are real pro software packages that are really expensive but a standard cubase or similar will be O.K. There are loads of tutorials on youtube. If you decide to go for a stand alone recording desk with DAW export,then you can still use the P.C. but IMO using Cubase with a standard digital mixing desk is the easiest and probably the most open way to go.
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Masai Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Registered User Joined: 04 January 2008 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 418	Post Options Post Reply Quote Masai Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 March 2015 at 2:34pm
	If you are just starting out and don't have any hardware gear like digital delays sound modules, compressors etc then I would just get a Apple Mac (tower, iMac, powerbook or Mini Mac) and Logic X. You can get any of these Macs secondhand to run Logic. Logic is so cheap but good (IMHO) it's insane. Do not get into any arguments as to whether a Windows PC is better than a MAC or Logic v Cubase v Reasons v whatever. I've got my reasons for using a Mac, a next man will have their reasons for using a Windows unit. Get as much info as you can from people that use different set ups. Whatever platform you choose you should be able to get a basic setup within £600 at a squeeze. With the remainder you then can get some good (loudspeaker) monitors, a good vocal microphone - if you don't have these already - and a audio interface. Then you can decide whether you are happy with 'mixing in the box' IE the computer or if you need a good old fashion mixer. Good luck! Protection
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