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    Posted: 17 March 2017 at 7:30pm
Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

Cant remember. But the smallest Faital one will for sure sound lovely.


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Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

What i found is that BMS does not like horns that has a slot in the first part.
They love ones that expands from the throat.


Thanks, that's the sort of rule-of-thumb I can work with.
It rules out the B&C ME45, which has a very pronounced slot as the first of its three distinct flare angles.

Oh well, they were cheap...
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Cant remember. But the smallest Faital one will for sure sound lovely.
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Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

Originally posted by I-shen Soundboy I-shen Soundboy wrote:

Thanks for the opinion: I guess chunkiness is no indication of quality then. Should have gone with Mr Wilkes' recommendation for the 4550s.

Do the characteristics you describe apply to similarly dimensioned 90x40 exponential flares? I've suspected they're an engineering compromise towards a 2D audience plane and a divergence from the "ideal" shape.


What i found is that BMS does not like horns that has a slot in the first part.
They love ones that expands from the throat.


Did Tony W used to recommend Celestial 9040, for the BMS 4524?

Would only use that as a "Tweeter", so to speak, but horn is very bulky.

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Originally posted by I-shen Soundboy I-shen Soundboy wrote:

Thanks for the opinion: I guess chunkiness is no indication of quality then. Should have gone with Mr Wilkes' recommendation for the 4550s.

Do the characteristics you describe apply to similarly dimensioned 90x40 exponential flares? I've suspected they're an engineering compromise towards a 2D audience plane and a divergence from the "ideal" shape.

What i found is that BMS does not like horns that has a slot in the first part.
They love ones that expands from the throat.
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Has anybody done a direct comparison between the Beyma CP380m and the Beyma CD10Fe?
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Originally posted by MattStolton MattStolton wrote:

Originally posted by I-shen Soundboy I-shen Soundboy wrote:

Do the council rent it out for a pittance to locals?

8 Hours (i.e. get in, event, get out, all within 8 hours) is Mon-Thurs is £2450, Fri-Sun £4900

Ouch, hardly "community" rates; can't compete with the wedding industry.
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Thanks for the opinion: I guess chunkiness is no indication of quality then. Should have gone with Mr Wilkes' recommendation for the 4550s.

Do the characteristics you describe apply to similarly dimensioned 90x40 exponential flares? I've suspected they're an engineering compromise towards a 2D audience plane and a divergence from the "ideal" shape.
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Originally posted by I-shen Soundboy I-shen Soundboy wrote:

Do the council rent it out for a pittance to locals?
8 Hours (i.e. get in, event, get out, all within 8 hours) is Mon-Thurs is £2450, Fri-Sun £4900.

Extra hours are M-Th £265, F-Su £550.

All are more if it is a Bank Holiday. And July-Aug (Peak wedding season), minimum 12hr bookings.

But the balcony is free if you book any of the above!!

And all plus corkage.....corkage attracts VAT.

And all plus "technical support".....If your unlucky that could be me!

Chingford AH has a relatively better PA system, sort of working lights, and is half the cost. However, noise limiter (and door contacts) that cuts power is present, as well as neighbours who do scream and shout. Unless you know where the unswitched power is....

But, yes, if your doing anything more than a speech to the assembled masses, bring your own rig.
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The ME45 horizontal coverage goes from < 40° to 120° plus it will suffer from "pattern flip" badly, as it is much more wide than high...



Edited by corell - 17 March 2017 at 4:04pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote I-shen Soundboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 March 2017 at 2:41pm
Absolutely, and continuing Marjan's insight into bad horn pairings, I'm looking at a pile of ME45 90x40 horns and concerned how well they work with BMS 4550s, of which I have a similar pile. They both appear to be of similar chunkiness, and a test rig makes noises...

Any experiential insight into this pairing, or do I just suck it and see?
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So, can we get back to desirable 1" comps and their horn flares now !?


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