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 Posted: 16 April 2017 at 5:03pm |
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looking at pic, ill second the throat section being way to big. can you fit a panal in there, re put a dog leg back in...
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MINTEVENTRESOURCES
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Posted: 16 April 2017 at 6:26pm |
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A panel might fit depending on the driver. Which I may change if the Eighteen Sound 9601 is the best solution. I can make a dog leg that extends the baffle but may have to wrap around the rear baffle a bit. Or make a traditional dog leg and call it a day. What do you suggest the baffle be in order to appropriately lessen the size of the throat?
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Posted: 16 April 2017 at 10:05pm |
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First thing that comes to my mind thats just not a place for handles in a scoop. Some loss of spl there for sure.
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Posted: 16 April 2017 at 10:10pm |
Before and after test conducted no loss of SPL. |
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Posted: 17 April 2017 at 8:23am |
Maybe missing braces are a part of the problem? |
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Posted: 17 April 2017 at 10:13am |
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If a scoop isn't braced properly, some of the energy is lost
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Posted: 17 April 2017 at 11:05am |
Fair enough  Also i think in general a lot of the dirty sound of scoops comes from them not being properly braced. Edited by Sypa - 17 April 2017 at 11:07am |
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Posted: 17 April 2017 at 12:35pm |
You've asked for my opinion, so I'll give it. Firstly, anyone who has done personal testing with different Scoops and drivers, as opposed to just sat at PC summing all day can tell you, Void V18-1000 sounds loudest in most Scoops, due to sensitivity. Doesn't mean is best sounding,just means is loudest. Been saying this for over 10 years, not gonna argue with people, whose opinion is not based on practical testing, who have never compared diff drivers in different Scoops. Next, as I alluded to in my first post, that short Scoop, with minute horn mouth, & huge throat, is nothing like Superscoop, & I wouldn't waste my time with them. Plenty free designs around, that fire with many different drivers. Better to buy used 18" Eminence/Fane/real Superscoopers, & use recommended, known drivers to work in them. |
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Posted: 17 April 2017 at 1:17pm |
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Lev,
Thanks for your feedback. I will consider give the Eighteen Sound 9601 a shot as a last effort to achieve more pressure. Overall, the box is far from horrible I merely wanted to find a way to increase the pressure. I shall update you with any findings. |
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Posted: 17 April 2017 at 1:37pm |
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I see no one asked you what amp you using to power it?
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Posted: 17 April 2017 at 2:12pm |
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Posted: 17 April 2017 at 3:33pm |
I Don't see 18NLW9601 excelling in that Scoop. That would be waste of very expensive driver. Sell the Scoops, buy decent used, & have choice of many driver's. Edited by levyte357- - 17 April 2017 at 3:34pm |
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