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Posted: 20 April 2017 at 2:47pm |
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hi
i looked at the signature series little mixers too, some nice features packed but not very upgradable! you have effects, two super simple compressors and parametric mids on stereo pairs which is nice but -no inserts on input means no right way to use real external compressors or similar effects -no insert on main out (or bus out or aux out) so can't insert eq or master compressor or whatever without having it in line and having to constantly fiddle with volume -no direct outs, a feature i like to use to pass effects through channel strips. -only one main output plus headphones, no analog alternative out or monitor out or mono out or rec out -no master balance options (just one single stereo fader) if you don't need groups take a look at allen and Heath zed14. i'd go with the non fx version to get one more aux channel but it's up to you. monitor out is on rca sadly but inserts on mono channels and main out. and i've touched both, the a&h feels way better built than the soundcraft on this particular products. By the way before buying go through the manual and block diagram. i gave for granted that stereo jack inputs were balanced, but in fact on most small consoles they are unbalanced and sometimes you can upgrade them to balanced. or if you are ready to jump digital there's a berry xr12 for you with all the magic and more. download the app and have a play... but for serving the djs at small level where you don't need a ton of outboard i value more having an analog board with faders i can hang on quickly than the infinite possibilities of digital - of course for mixing bands i love x32 capabilities. i went the crest x20r route in the end but it's an higher level of board and price. |
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toastyghost
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The original Ghost series still finds a lot of use in studios because it has a certain sound when overdriven. Similar to Midas' pres but different sound.
It will better than what's in an EPM/EFX yes. But we had this question the other day frankly you're going to want outboard before long and you've already spend X Air or similar type of unit money. Just get a digital unit now it's more future proof a better use of your money and if you're new to mixing stuff the presets in there will probably be useful to get you started. Edited by toastyghost - 20 April 2017 at 2:14pm |
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Biggus
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Is the ghost preamp any better? Should I be looking at any other desks?
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toastyghost
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Massively different preamp
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Risc_Terilia
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Looks like different pres, have a google...
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Biggus
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Whats the difference between EPM vs Singature series apart from MTK DAC
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Biggus
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Hi I looked at this but want to start simple before I move more hi tech
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Risc_Terilia
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Well that's how they've priced them yes but realistically £309 for that mixer is above the rest of the market - example https://www.studiospares.com/Studio-Gear/Mixers-Analogue/Soundcraft-EPM12-Mixer_267680.htm The non-MTK users are going to be subsidising the MTK ones.
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Biggus
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Another question... whats the difference between the soundcraft EPM and Signature desks. why would I go for one over the other?
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its only a extra £20 over the standard signature 12 desk - thought for the price might be a useful feature to have for recording.. not essential but at that price point I can't say no.
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With that desk a lot of what you're paying for is the ability to send all channels to a DAW separately but that doesn't seem to be something that you'll be using?
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