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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark James Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 February 2017 at 7:55pm
do a search on limiting prolines to find out more about hte inline attenuater mentioned previously and im afraid youl have to learn how to control your gain somewhat, howether once you got it right you will have a happy amp thats not being flogged to death and drivers that wont get "sodomized" [love that expression in this context should be mentioned in amp spec sheets... capable of sodomizing cat 1 drivers or whatever lol]
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Ive done a decent of googling on limiting and had a look at a few calculators. From what I remember i needed -6db of attenuation plus the -22db of the ultradrive. However beginning to feel im missing something now. 

Seems simple:

-ultradrive limiter only goes to -22db
-inline attenuator instantly knocks -10db (or whatever off)
-effectively reduces the power of the proline making it more suited to the kappas
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rosssss224 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 February 2017 at 8:06pm

more like -24db overall? 

Edited by rosssss224 - 13 February 2017 at 8:08pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rosssss224 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 February 2017 at 11:10am
Assuming input sensitivity of proline is 0.775v Satisfied myself that...

0.775v = 0dBu

With the limiter set at -22dB the output from the ultradrive will be constrained to 0.775v and the output from the amp to 1850w (bench test)

Since 2 kappas in parallel is 1200w @4ohms

need further limiting of 10 Log (1200/1850) = -1.87dB

so total attenuation required is -22-1.87 = -23.87dB

but....ultradrive limiter only goes to -22dB

so install a -10dB inline attenuator on the berry sub output

set berry limiter to -13.87dB (call it -15dB for safety)

Match with 40Hz highpass and should be good to go
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just run with a lower output channel gain?
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Originally posted by cravings cravings wrote:

just run with a lower output channel gain?

The berry output gains come after the limiter stage so -22dB is as low as the limiters will go
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The dials on the front of the amplifier are attenuators too Ross
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Yes but also nice not not worrying someone decides they need turned up
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