Haze Fluid - Manufacturer or not?

glycol vaporised at the wrong temp can either give you very wet fog that leaves residue, or if too hot can cause the production of some very nasty compounds that are very toxic.

A lot depends on the machine - I won't use anything other than Look/Smoke Factory/HazeBase haze fluids in my SF/HB machines.

For a lot of the cheap fazer type machines I don't think it makes a lot of difference - they still break regardless!

jacethebase wrote: Technohaze takes the 2.5l bottles. Buying it by the 2.5l bottle as apposed to the 9.5l isnt a huge difference in price and works out alot easier. Always use Jem fluid in a Jem machine.

That was professional then. People had to breathe that in.

Little story that confirms the very wet fog thing :

Last year we renewed the whole sound and light rig in a well known club in Antwerp.
Against our advice to use the proper fluid for every smoke/haze machine as intended, they opted to use some cheap generic fluid they ordered online somewhere (to spare a few pennies). "We used it before in other smoke/hazer machines, it's okay, don't worry 'bout it... we have this covered..."
All went "well" for about a month or so and than one after the other of about every fixture that was more or less in the exhaust pad of the smoke/haze machines, started to behave erratic and @ random working or not. Long story short... it took us 5 men and a solid week work to get everything down, check/dismantle/clean/repair of about 40 fixtures. We knew what the problem was, but even so, we were stunned how much oil came out of the fixtures. The ones with fans were really nasty, oil dripping literally everywhere. Two heads even not repairable at all, because many circuit boards and connectors were corroded beyond repair. There was also a beamer total loss, an active loudspeaker cab that sounded funny and buzzing, curtains to be dry-cleaned, wall/ceiling/trussing, you name it, all to be cleaned by us and the local cleaning staff had to do overtime like never before. The ventilation system filters were to be replaced, it seemed like the problems kept popping up without and end in sight.
It was hands down the worst case of "wet fog" damage I have ever seen, but it shows how fast and how hard things can go wrong when fluid is not matched for your machine. The moral of the story : use the correct fluid for your machine. In the case I described above, they wanted to spare maybe a few hundred Euro a year and ended up with a very unwelcome bill of 5 digits on top of the recent purchase/install of the rig. Timing could not have been worse for them. It was a very expensive lesson and it was avoidable.

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Edited by Jimmer - 12 February 2016 at 5:54pm