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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dutchman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 August 2016 at 10:00pm
Maybe arcs 2. Anyway l'acoustics is what sounds most hifi  to me! No other brands really come to my mind directly. Maybe nexo 
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Community makes various versions of the R2, I was quite impressed when I first heard these, even though the version I heard only had the cheap Eminence 1" driver above 4Khz. The Eminence sounded fine on music, but nasty on live (uncompressed) vocals (made frying-bacon noises). We were driving it with a 2.8KW amplifier outdoors in a big field.

They made a version with a 2" ring-radiator tweeter (and a Baltic-birch cabinet), but the best version now has a 1.4" exit HF driver.

http://www.communitypro.com/sites/default/files/R2-94Max_Spec.pdf

I had some of these:

http://www.communitypro.com/sites/default/files/TFR94_spec.pdf

(Baltic-birch with the ring-radiator)

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Hi all

take an look at this

http://www.meyersound.com/sites/default/files/x-10_ds.pdf

and is subwoofer more or less

http://www.meyersound.com/sites/default/files/x-800_ds.pdf

and one fast google look on X 10 and the result is this

http://audiophilereview.com/audiophile/the-25-ultimate-audiophile-speakers-of-all-time.html

it is lots off €€€€€€€

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The bigger the system the harder it is to keep i "hifi".
For smaller to medium sized venues I'd say Meyer or Kling & Freitag make rather hifi sounding stuff.
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I think that's wrong. I think there's a magic ratio between efficiency, electronics, room size/shape, driver/cab size and volume.

Play any hifi speaker loud and they don't sound so great. Play any PA stuff quiet and it don't sound too great either. If someone wanted to design a proper large scale hifi they probably could and it'd sound amazing. But it'd be a tiny teeny market for it once the budget is in place.


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danley sound labs products should all be pretty 'hi-fi'. I've built my own unity horns and they blow everything else I have heard out the water. and they array well. or the jericho horns are one box solutions.
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Originally posted by Daniel S Daniel S wrote:

The bigger the system the harder it is to keep i "hifi".

The biggest issue would be budget. I am one of the few here that have a sound system that can easily deliver 20 Hz - 20,000 kHz (Most heard me state numerous times I do not use HPF & LPF filters) however, it required me thinking more independently and not being mesmerised by marketing hype and moving with the crowd.


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Surely the need to cut through the sound of thousands of excited folk swallowing, snorting farting, belching and generally yabbering away precludes the use of a hifi-esque top end for most public address systems ..Big smile
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Hi,Elliot! Tell me more about your system or where can I read about it?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote snowflake Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 August 2016 at 10:02am
Originally posted by Elliot Thompson Elliot Thompson wrote:

Originally posted by Daniel S Daniel S wrote:

The bigger the system the harder it is to keep i "hifi".

The biggest issue would be budget. I am one of the few here that have a sound system that can easily deliver 20 Hz - 20,000 kHz (Most heard me state numerous times I do not use HPF & LPF filters) however, it required me thinking more independently and not being mesmerised by marketing hype and moving with the crowd.


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surely your amps have HPF and LPF in them Wink
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Indeed, unless they are all DC coupled which seem unlikely Big smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pfly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 August 2016 at 11:49am
To my ear Meyer CQ-1, UPQ-1P, UPJ-1P and UP4 sound very different compared to other PA loudspeakers. Would love to hear X-10. Oh and Meyer Amie walked over Dynaudio Air15 and Genelec 8351 when we did small comparison.
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