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Originally posted by Louder than loud Louder than loud wrote:

Hear them first before you start


lol i dont think anyone is doubting that they sound fine, its more the princible of a good british company like Martin thorwing loads of money into design and research and making a good sounding box, and then not seeing the return on it and make money and survive because other companies bypass the design and test phase and just make copies that they can then afford to sell for 70% off.

Yes we all wish speakers were cheaper and we could all have a massive pile of them, but theres a flipside and companies like martin need to pay the bills, or no one would ever innovate and all we'd have is the same designs being copied and recycled around for ever.

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I have been interested but not suprised how many legit hire companies were running copied F1 bins this summer. Good copies but copys non the less. Good enough to make me wonder why a skilled carpenter would do it. And by the looks of things not imports.......
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Originally posted by kevinmcdonough kevinmcdonough wrote:


lol i dont think anyone is doubting that they sound fine, its more the princible of a good british company like Martin thorwing loads of money into design and research and making a good sounding box, and then not seeing the return on it and make money and survive because other companies bypass the design and test phase and just make copies that they can then afford to sell for 70% off.



I agree on what you said, but you do know that Martin Audio is part of Loud and not independent company anymore? Haven't been for a long time. http://www.loudtechinc.com/
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Oh yer loads of research must have gone into there twin 18" reflex bin LOL
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Well as long as all BIG manufacturers stick to their overrated prices people will copy them. They just want to earn more money and they are greedy.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote subbass Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 October 2010 at 3:46pm
Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

Well as long as all BIG manufacturers stick to their overrated prices people will copy them. They just want to earn more money and they are greedy.

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i think there may be a little more to that to be honest
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Originally posted by Pasi Pasi wrote:

Originally posted by kevinmcdonough kevinmcdonough wrote:


lol i dont think anyone is doubting that they sound fine, its more the princible of a good british company like Martin thorwing loads of money into design and research and making a good sounding box, and then not seeing the return on it and make money and survive because other companies bypass the design and test phase and just make copies that they can then afford to sell for 70% off.



I agree on what you said, but you do know that Martin Audio is part of Loud and not independent company anymore? Haven't been for a long time. http://www.loudtechinc.com/


So Pasi .. just clear things up ... what do YOU think should happen to a company that gets cheap copies made in China and then sells copies of someone elses product?  Just let them get on with it? or prosecution?
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Originally posted by cilla.scope cilla.scope wrote:


So Pasi .. just clear things up ... what do YOU think should happen to a company that gets cheap copies made in China and then sells copies of someone elses product?  Just let them get on with it? or prosecution?


If it is 1:1 copy, i would do everything to stop that. But in real life things aren't that simple. What is a copy for example in loudspeaker? Is it enough that it looks same but performs differently? Or if the performance is same but looks different? If it is not patented technology or look, what then? How many different ways there is to do reflex loaded 2x18" bin?

This could be extended to everything else too. Do you copy music, games or movies from internet or somewhere else?
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I was asking you ... but you don't seem too sure .. say something that was outside a little bit different, but inside it was clear it was a copy ... what then?
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Originally posted by cilla.scope cilla.scope wrote:

I was asking you ... but you don't seem too sure .. say something that was outside a little bit different, but inside it was clear it was a copy ... what then?


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