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    Posted: 03 December 2004 at 4:02pm

Originally posted by matieo matieo wrote:

I am a touch confused by this, according to the datasheet turbo appear to suggest a crossover point of 180Hz for the THL 811's (to THL818's etc). The response graph thingys seem to show it looking ok....

http://www.turbosound.com/pdfs/thl811.pdf

Is there somthing I am missing or perhaps the HiLight series is different. Is it that the THL does go down to 180 fine but is distorted below 350?

Matt

I'm aware of what it says on Turbo's specs, but I have also experimented with said speakers. While the 811 will go down to 180Hz, it sounds arse and will only throw the sound a few metres. Better to filter it out and use something in between
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All sounds good, will try to play with some THL811's

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Sorry... ignore me, I obviously hadn't woken up properly this morning!

1) I meant to say Hilight, not Flashlight. Oops
2) I was wrong about the THL2 thing as well... that's what happens when you don't check your facts properly!
3) Having gone and looked at Turbo's site, and properly remembered what a thl811 is... Yes, I have actually mixed on them a couple of times, with thl828 subs, and they sounded fine to me in the low mid region!

So, making a complete U-turn, I think they will work well with HD15's. Should make a really scaleable lightweight rig. You should probably try for yourself before you buy though.

Sorry again for adding confusion,

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Sorry for the double post, here's what it should have been.

Originally posted by owentec owentec wrote:

Matieo,

Most flashlight systems use THL-2's, which are an 811 with a vented 15".

Owen

Errr, no.

Most Flashlight systems use Flashlights. Otherwise, they wouldn't be Flashlight systems ;-)

(Flashlight was Turbo's previous flagship array system, w horn loaded 12, 6.5 and 1 drivers set up for narrow dispersion (25*20degrees, IIRC))

THL2s aren't the same as an 811 with an added bass section either - the THL2 has a 6.5" mid, while the 811 has a 10". The 811 has 55*40 dispersion, the THL2 has 90*40.

The box you're probably thinking of (811-type mid-high components + added bass) is the THL4.3, and it's a horn loaded 18 under the 10 mid.

Hopefully, that might deconfuse Matieo a wee bit.

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David.
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Hi Matieo

my take

The Turbo THL811.3 is very good from 250hz up (my rig have 6 un per side)dont use on the 180hz the 10"dont work from 200hz to 180 hz

the HD215 (look at the fotos )louded whiad DAS 15G they go flat from 55hz to 300hz !

hope it helps yours Vitor

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Im still confused to be honest

The Turbo THL811 appears to be part of the THL4, not the THL2 as was stated. The THL4 has a 10" mid and horn loaded 18" (THL818?) bass, the THL2 on the other hand has a 6.5" mid and 15" reflex(?)

Ie the THL811 seems to be designed to go with the THL818 or 828 (double 18). The THL811 also appears to go down to 180hz (flatter to 200hz mind)

What my question really is now is what is wrong with the THL811 below 350Hz? Is it some sort of distortion since it seems pretty flat to 200Hz?
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Originally posted by owentec owentec wrote:

Matieo,

Most flashlight systems use THL-2's, which are an 811 with a vented 15". I wouldn't go from a turbo double 18 bin direct to an 811 without something in between. I think the manufacturer is being a bit optimistic about the capabilities of their product!

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Just to add, this is to be a 'party rig', so a bass heavy setup is what i want
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According the the turbo site, the thl2 has a 6.5" mid and seems quite a lot smaller. It seems much closer in spec to mid top part of the THL4

ftp://ftp.turbosound.com/datasheets/thl4.pdf

Still confused
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Matieo,

Most flashlight systems use THL-2's, which are an 811 with a vented 15". I wouldn't go from a turbo double 18 bin direct to an 811 without something in between. I think the manufacturer is being a bit optimistic about the capabilities of their product!

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Just saw these Turboesque boxes on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&?ViewItem&it em=3765939825

Any good?
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I am a touch confused by this, according to the datasheet turbo appear to suggest a crossover point of 180Hz for the THL 811's (to THL818's etc). The response graph thingys seem to show it looking ok....

http://www.turbosound.com/pdfs/thl811.pdf

Is there somthing I am missing or perhaps the HiLight series is different. Is it that the THL does go down to 180 fine but is distorted below 350?

Matt
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