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Hemisphere
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Posted: 05 November 2014 at 2:03pm |
Just spotted this on Blue Aran: http://www.bluearan.co.uk/index.php?id=PAUSN330N
Could it be the fabled Minirig driver? The plots seem to suggest a phenomenal efficiency (touching 100dB/watt in places) |
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Timebomb
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Id take p audio plots with a bucket of salt.
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Hemisphere
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Same, but I trust Minirig plots.
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lost eden
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As I've said in other threads, without actually dismantling my Minirig I am still 99% sure that it is a Tang Band driver, simply by the style of surround/adhesive visible through the grille. And without dismantling my Minirig Sub I am 100% certain that is a Tang Band driver (W3-1876S or similar).
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Saturnus
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There's something horribly wrong with that plot. According to that the driver has 20 ohm impedance, so something is definitely not right. Also average sensitivity is rated at 86dB/W/m which is always averaged in the listed usable frequency range, ie. 100-18000hz.
But you're right that the plot is virtually identical to the Mini-Rig plot so it's quite safe to say that it's the right driver and not a Tang-Band. Probably a OEM version with black cone.
Edited by Saturnus - 05 November 2014 at 3:36pm |
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lost eden
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If the image on Blue Aran is correct, this driver looks nothing like what's in the Minirig. The one in the Minirig has a smooth cone material (not woven carbon fibre like the P-Audio) & as I said the surround is a dead giveaway - the glossy ring on the inside of the santoprene is diagnostically a Tang Band feature & the Minirig clearly has it if you look closely.
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Hemisphere
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Yes the smooth cone material was what I gathered from looking inside the grille holes, but those plots look too similar to be coincidence. Possibly a custom OEM variant is used in both cases?
Edited by Hemisphere - 05 November 2014 at 3:43pm |
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Saturnus
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Agree. Very definitely a Tang-Band (in that picture... but that not the Mini-Rig driver though). Conical dust cap is another give away. Question is why is the plot published by Mini-Rig then for the p.audio driver? If you overlay the 2 plots they are identical. And I don't mean they are really really close to being the same. They are 100% identical. In fact, the Mini-Rig plot is just a copy/paste of the p.audio drivers data sheet plot. Even the impedance plot is exactly... and I do mean exactly the same.
Edited by Saturnus - 05 November 2014 at 3:58pm |
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Hemisphere
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The image posted isn't a Minirig it's just a tangband driver.
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Saturnus
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Makes more sense then. Ok. Then unless someone does take the Mini-Rig apart. All indicators point towards the p.audio driver.
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Hemisphere
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I feel like it's kind of faux pas to give the game away, but 3 years is a very good run totally uncontested and there's obviously a lot more to it than good driver selection (besides the circuitry and enclosure design, by all accounts the customer service and after sales support has been stellar).
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lost eden
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The reason I posted that picture was to show the giveaway glossy ring on the surround, which all 3" full range drivers from Tang Band have & which the Minirig clearly has if you peer through the grille.
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