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    Posted: 30 May 2017 at 3:05pm
I've just bought this from Blue Aran.  Will this crossover give less power to the high pass output or will it just do equal split?  Both drivers are 8 Ohm.  I see there's space for resistors.  

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Have you tried asking Blue Aran??  Seems logical to me.
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Yeah could do but I'd also like to gain an understanding of how to work it out.  
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Get LTSpice, draw the circuit out, simulate it, profit. It won't take you too long, there are tutorials all round the web. Measure the voltages out where the drivers would connect (Low+-, High +-) and run an AC simulation

Or get REW and measure it that way using loopback connections to a soundcard. I wrote a guide on how to do it which is on this site somewhere.
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are those inductors different sizes or is the perspective messed up?
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Originally posted by snowflake snowflake wrote:

are those inductors different sizes or is the perspective messed up?

Different sizes LOL
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There are a few configurations you can do with that board.




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"Will this crossover give less power to the high pass output or will it just do equal split?"

With the xover point at 2k2, you only need about 15%-20% of the overall power going to the top end. The xover will ensure that happens - and if that is still too much, it looks like you can fit a couple of resisters to attenuate the signal. Didn´t the board come with any instructions?


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Originally posted by Earplug Earplug wrote:

"Will this crossover give less power to the high pass output or will it just do equal split?"

With the xover point at 2k2, you only need about 15%-20% of the overall power going to the top end. The xover will ensure that happens - and if that is still too much, it looks like you can fit a couple of resisters to attenuate the signal. Didn´t the board come with any instructions?



I tried it out last night, by my reckoning it needs about 5.5dB off the top so I've bought the appropriate resistors.  No there was not paperwork.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Earplug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 May 2017 at 12:59pm
Ok - a true DIY board.  Disapprove

Glad you got it sorted, anyway.   Thumbs Up


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Risc_Terilia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 May 2017 at 1:11pm
Originally posted by Earplug Earplug wrote:

Ok - a true DIY board.  Disapprove

Glad you got it sorted, anyway.   Thumbs Up



Yeah well Blue Aran have been helpful as they always are.  The only thing is that I've not been able to get the precise resistance values and honestly I don't have the maths to reverse the formula to give me attenuation from resistances but intuitively I think that the only real difference will be a slight alteration in overall resistance as seen by the crossover.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Earplug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 May 2017 at 1:19pm
Passive crossovers are all an estimation anyway and best tweaked by testing. Hopefully it won´t make too much difference to your cabs. What are you using the xover for?

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