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    Posted: 01 June 2012 at 12:03am
Evening.  Thought it might be worthwhile for me to give some feedback on my recent experiments with the PKN amps.

Dan at PKN kindly dropped down a rack of demo amps to Blue Aran for myself and Ed to play with.  We did some listening tests against my normal amp rack then he left them with us to try out.

The amps we have been playing with were an XE2500, XE4000, XE6000 and LC4004.

In listening tests against my rack of a QSC PL4.0 on sub and a Pulse 2x1100 on mid-high (both pretty good sounding amps) there was a noticable difference in the sound but none of us could exactly identify what it was or which set of amps we preferred.  With the XE6000 driving a pair of twin 18" reflex subs and the XE4000 connected to a pair of 15"+1.4" passive mid-tops they sounded clean, accurate and solid.  Definitely no shortage of power, especially from the XE6000.  There is a little background hiss as you tend to associate with class D amps but only noticable if you're listening for it.

I had the opportunity to take the amps out on a little gig and used the XE6000 to run 4 single 18" bins and the XE4000 to run 4 Nexo PS15's as additional system in a local bar while Mr Scruff played some tunes.  I have previously done this job with Camco Vortex 6's and in comparison the XE6000 on subs seemed to be hardly doing any work at all.  In fact according to the built-in metering, the highest I saw was about 500W/channel whereas I would normally expect the Camco's to be running quite close to their limit.  The high efficiency and active PFC meant that despite the mains supply being a pathetic 215V, the amps really couldn't have cared less.

Back in the office, I decided to try the XE4000 out on the bench as a representative of the range.  Output power with one channel driven in to 4Ohms matched the rated power very closely, I measured 2.2kW, spec is 2.1kW.  I also tried some class D torture test square waves which it handled very well.  A little overshoot on the leading edge but very little ringing on a 1kHz square.  A 10kHz square wave was turned into more of a sine wave with just the first couple of harmonics as you'd expect but the amp still managed to drive that to full power without any complaints (I only did that for a very short test just in case!).  According to my energy monitor, when the amp is running hard, I actually saw the power factor at unity but mostly higher than 0.95 which is very good indeed.

We also tested the LC4004 in both listening and bench tests.  It has noticably more background noise at idle than the XE amps however we had one from an older batch.  I'm told there has been a revision to the design which reduces this to the same or lower than the XD/XE series.  Power output on the bench was slightly less than the specs which was a little dissapointing.  However they are still very useful 4 channel, 1U amps.

In general I am very impressed by these amps and would not hesitate to recommend them.  If you need an amp to drive the big boy sub drivers like the 1851, then the XD/XE6000 is definitely worth considering.  The fact that they are light, compact and able to extract the maximum from their mains supply makes them very good all-round amps.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 June 2012 at 12:17am
Did you try the XE6000 with 40-50hz sine wave?

Don't forget, some of us have already tested the XE6000 driving 2x 1850s per channel, in an environment that allowed amp to be opened up fully,  and the amp ran out of headroom and started limiting, way before overpowering the drivers.

1851s are not as efficient as 1850s, therefore  would require even more  power to match their output.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 June 2012 at 12:26am
I must admit I didn't try a low frequency sine wave.  I'll try to do one in the morning before I give them back.

There aren't many amps out there that can deliver more per channel.  Surely if you need much more power you have to start running one driver per bridged amp?

I wonder sometimes if you'll ever be happy you've got an amp with enough power Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 June 2012 at 1:14am
Ceharden, are you working for Blue Aran?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 June 2012 at 1:17am
its not much much more power, there are heaveyweight amps specd at 1600w @ 4r per channel 20 - 20k and can play 4 1850's to their limit. there are some other amps speccd twice+ the power rating  and still cant do this. just looking for amps that can do what they're meant to do.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 June 2012 at 1:30am
Originally posted by ceharden ceharden wrote:

I must admit I didn't try a low frequency sine wave.  I'll try to do one in the morning before I give them back.

There aren't many amps out there that can deliver more per channel.  Surely if you need much more power you have to start running one driver per bridged amp?


I wouldn't buy another one, but Inf8Mk2 does deliver more power than the PKN. That was the reference amp at the test, and could easily have pummeled 2x 1850s/2x Turbomax 1500s per channel into the dust, without  clip light in sight.


Originally posted by ceharden ceharden wrote:


I wonder sometimes if you'll ever be happy you've got an amp with enough power Tongue


LOL

Currently bridging certain QSC torroidials, and they're definitely too much power.. LOL








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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 June 2012 at 1:30am
Originally posted by luton_soundman luton_soundman wrote:

its not much much more power, there are heaveyweight amps specd at 1600w @ 4r per channel 20 - 20k and can play 4 1850's to their limit. there are some other amps speccd twice+ the power rating  and still cant do this. just looking for amps that can do what they're meant to do.
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So you are saying that 2x1600W are actually more then PKN's 3600W?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 June 2012 at 1:38am
Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

Ceharden, are you working for Blue Aran?
Chris is not employed by Blue Aran - he's an independent freelance sound engineer/ repair man who does sound hires and a multitude of other things. Where he is geographically located close to us, there are occasions where we have things of mutual interest.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 June 2012 at 1:57am
Originally posted by Andy Kos Andy Kos wrote:

Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

Ceharden, are you working for Blue Aran?
Chris is not employed by Blue Aran - he's an independent freelance sound engineer/ repair man who does sound hires and a multitude of other things. Where he is geographically located close to us, there are occasions where we have things of mutual interest.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 June 2012 at 2:06am
Andy beat me to it.  As he says, my connection to Blue Aran is that I have done freelance work for them in various areas for many years, especially going back to when they used to do more PA and lighting hire.  For those worried about commercial interests, I do not get directly involved with the sales side of the business except to give technical advice.  The opinions I post are my own and not that of Blue Aran.  I hope that answers the question.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 June 2012 at 2:11am
Originally posted by levyte357 levyte357 wrote:

Originally posted by Andy Kos Andy Kos wrote:

Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

Ceharden, are you working for Blue Aran?
Chris is not employed by Blue Aran - he's an independent freelance sound engineer/ repair man who does sound hires and a multitude of other things. Where he is geographically located close to us, there are occasions where we have things of mutual interest.


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Well yes, but dont let Chris hear me agreeing with you... Tongue
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Originally posted by luton_soundman luton_soundman wrote:

its not much much more power, there are heaveyweight amps specd at 1600w @ 4r per channel 20 - 20k and can play 4 1850's to their limit. there are some other amps speccd twice+ the power rating  and still cant do this. just looking for amps that can do what they're meant to do.


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