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Hog scoops, fantastic subs, but lets face it......

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Topic: Hog scoops, fantastic subs, but lets face it......
Posted By: smithers
Subject: Hog scoops, fantastic subs, but lets face it......
Date Posted: 16 October 2008 at 4:51pm
the name sucks.

the rigs been out and about recently, and people have been impressed with the racket it makes for such a small rig (1 guy asked me if it was void but i think thats more because its red)

but when people ask what brand they are, and i reply-
" they are not branded, i made them myself, they are called Hog scoops"

straight away you can tell they are just thinking "WTF is a hog scoop"
great bin, and i know it sounds trivial, but the name doesnt sell itself well.
another thing i notice is people immediately seem less impressed once they realise you built it yourself, people who are into soundsystems always give 'nuff respect' but your everyday raver/punter for some reason thinks that because it not got a badge on the front its somehow inferior.

it shouldnt really matter, but when your gigging on your own and you've got a bunch of chavs spouting total tosh about how eminence drivers are the best out there, and cerwin vega subs are baaaad and i should have got some of those instead.....i just wanna stand up, turn the music off and shout

"listen you f**king chavvy nob jockeys, i spent weeks building this rig with my own fair hand, and these PRECISION DEVICE loaded ES 18 kick bins bins & Hogs will spank your wanky CV bins in every possible way, and they cost 1/3 of the price to make, if your not too retarded to cut your own fingers off.....you clearly know nothing about what your talking about so just sod off and let me get on with my job of providing jump up drum and bass and rambing crap mc's at rediculous volume's you all love so much"

rant over.

anyway, its a shame mykey laid claim to the name "dubsub" for a box which is more or less the same, but never really did anything with it, even the name sounds like it gonna do damage before you've even hear it.




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Posted By: Deadbeat
Date Posted: 16 October 2008 at 4:55pm

Whack a random badge on - it'll confuse them to no end.

'I didn't know NAD made bass bins this heavy?'


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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: 16 October 2008 at 4:57pm
i'd wanna get "powered by the mighty smithers" around the edge
with me doing a fonze type "eyyyyy" pose with my thumbs up in the middle.


Posted By: djfaceatl
Date Posted: 16 October 2008 at 5:30pm
Well you know what I have told people who ask about my set,
I tell em that they were custom designed and built to spec by designers who have surpassed Cerwin Vega's designers.
All you get is a huh? and wow? they must be expensive then
and you say "More expensive than you would want to know"
 


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Posted By: Heathrow_B_line
Date Posted: 16 October 2008 at 8:14pm
the hog scoop is a good name
 
maybe you should build some more, that way you wouldnt be able to hear them


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Posted By: djtecthreat
Date Posted: 16 October 2008 at 10:56pm
I don't bother.

Random Guy That thinks he's a DJ/Sound guy:  "that sounds good, what are the speakers"

Response:  "Similar to "Acoustimax, but more like "Supersound5000"  

Random Guy: "Oh ok, i've never heard of them"

Response:  "Only the best rigs in the world are comprised of these speakers!!"

then you walk away and do something else, or put your headphones on and turn an empty channel on the board.


Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 17 October 2008 at 12:58pm
Originally posted by smithers smithers wrote:

the name sucks.

the rigs been out and about recently, and people have been impressed with the racket it makes for such a small rig (1 guy asked me if it was void but i think thats more because its red)

but when people ask what brand they are, and i reply-
" they are not branded, i made them myself, they are called Hog scoops"

straight away you can tell they are just thinking "WTF is a hog scoop"
great bin, and i know it sounds trivial, but the name doesnt sell itself well.
another thing i notice is people immediately seem less impressed once they realise you built it yourself, people who are into soundsystems always give 'nuff respect' but your everyday raver/punter for some reason thinks that because it not got a badge on the front its somehow inferior.

it shouldnt really matter, but when your gigging on your own and you've got a bunch of chavs spouting total tosh about how eminence drivers are the best out there, and cerwin vega subs are baaaad and i should have got some of those instead.....i just wanna stand up, turn the music off and shout

"listen you f**king chavvy nob jockeys, i spent weeks building this rig with my own fair hand, and these PRECISION DEVICE loaded ES 18 kick bins bins & Hogs will spank your wanky CV bins in every possible way, and they cost 1/3 of the price to make, if your not too retarded to cut your own fingers off.....you clearly know nothing about what your talking about so just sod off and let me get on with my job of providing jump up drum and bass and rambing crap mc's at rediculous volume's you all love so much"

rant over.

anyway, its a shame mykey laid claim to the name "dubsub" for a box which is more or less the same, but never really did anything with it, even the name sounds like it gonna do damage before you've even hear it.

 
id say to em;
 
why dont u bring over 2 of ya speakers and we can do an A/B comparison test, then what you do is put 2 of urs on one channel of ya amp, put 2 of thiers on the other channel, turn the volume up, wait for the thick smoke n start laughing Wink
 
if any random asks me what scoops i have, my reply is usually soundlab LOL


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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 17 October 2008 at 2:42pm

DUBSUB factory builtWink



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Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 17 October 2008 at 5:36pm
Hoody sub, they'll like that, innit

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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: 17 October 2008 at 6:36pm
Originally posted by mykey mykey wrote:

DUBSUB factory builtWink



i know mykey, i'm not gonna start palming my hogs off as Dubsubs, i'm proud of my work and the designs i've chosen for the new system, for a 5k DIY system with crown amps as old as 12 years, i'd step up against most equivelant 'pro' PA systems and give them a good run for their money, it was just an example of a good name, to go with a good box.


Posted By: tomschute
Date Posted: 17 October 2008 at 8:05pm
if your worrying yourself with such trivialities your obviously have too much time on your hands - go build some more! Big smile

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Posted By: staiper
Date Posted: 17 October 2008 at 8:39pm
..Ouuu damnnn

Now.. I am responsible for giving such Pig name to this enclosure.

I am pretty bad on finding some cool names for my boxes.. Those are usually
some not to much creative acronyms Embarrassed .. HOG was first not-acronym box name.





Posted By: Deadbeat
Date Posted: 17 October 2008 at 8:40pm
It's a great name stipe - the problem lies with the punters Wink


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Posted By: staiper
Date Posted: 17 October 2008 at 9:08pm
...Yes I know that punters-attitude.
Usually they know all about everything and they are especially experts on
sound systems (because they was on 5 party's) and they know to list few
 names (especially JBL, RCF, MARTIN ) ..everything other are just copies and sh_t :)

...Even if you have copy of some "famous name" box (preferably with some unaproppirate driver - it is only important that it is 18er) ..
it sounds uncomparable superior to "something" one builds himself or something without "big name" .. because evry punter KNOW what is good stuff :) ..and (we all know) that is impossible to build any good cabinet without 38 peoples in R&D department, CNC machines and special NASA computer which every serious company have!! (hope that we all agree on this)

When I come to one of those I usually say that sound system is built by http://www.oetker.com - Dr.Oetker company.Tongue .. tryin to look serious as possible.
than some of them (in fact majority) just say something like "Ahhaa I know .. those are greeat" ..

EXTRA TIP:
You can point them to OB myspace to read and learn more about technology involved :)


Posted By: djtecthreat
Date Posted: 18 October 2008 at 3:04am
Staiper, nothing wrong with your boxes or the names, i'm fitting to build HOG's and SMT212's for my systems.

So i'd like to thank you for the designs and sharing them.


Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: 18 October 2008 at 8:56am
stapier, its not a poke at you, i also quite like the name, and i know its such a trivial thing to bring up considering the box is such a brilliant design.....but when people are constantly asking what is a hog scoop and why is it called such, its gets a bit tedious......maybe once there are a few more out there and the name gets about things will change!


Posted By: tommysb
Date Posted: 18 October 2008 at 1:50pm
It could be a Dr Oetker Ham and Mushroom Scoop


Posted By: Deadbeat
Date Posted: 18 October 2008 at 1:56pm
LOL

I think we need a name for the micro-scoop then if this keeps on going?

The Rabid Piglet?


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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 18 October 2008 at 3:21pm
Originally posted by smithers smithers wrote:

stapier, its not a poke at you, i also quite like the name, and i know its such a trivial thing to bring up considering the box is such a brilliant design.....but when people are constantly asking what is a hog scoop and why is it called such, its gets a bit tedious......maybe once there are a few more out there and the name gets about things will change!
just say the designer got pissed the day he designed it and shagged a pigStern Smile

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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 18 October 2008 at 3:23pm
Originally posted by smithers smithers wrote:

stapier, its not a poke at you
....it's a pig in a poke!

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Posted By: Robbo
Date Posted: 18 October 2008 at 5:26pm
No Mykey its a Poking a pig


Posted By: Dj Maca Roots
Date Posted: 19 October 2008 at 6:13pm
Originally posted by staiper staiper wrote:

..Ouuu damnnn

Now.. I am responsible for giving such Pig name to this enclosure.

I am pretty bad on finding some cool names for my boxes.. Those are usually
some not to much creative acronyms Embarrassed .. HOG was first not-acronym box name.






"what kind of subs are those... they look like KV2 or EV"
"No there a Fibonacci Scoop... there a very complicated design"
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Posted By: Jhodas
Date Posted: 10 November 2008 at 11:10pm
put one of http://testou.free.fr/www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/logo/bigdfwlogo.jpg - these on the grill, that will befuddle everyone! hehe

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Posted By: Autograff
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 3:21pm
Quite like the name myself

I was wondering earlier today about hogs , and quite fancy investing in some,how much do you reckon it costs for 4?Loaded/Unloaded 

cheers


Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 3:24pm
Originally posted by Jhodas Jhodas wrote:

put one of http://testou.free.fr/www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/logo/bigdfwlogo.jpg - these on the grill, that will befuddle everyone! hehe
 
LOL


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Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music.

Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day.


Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 9:15pm
Originally posted by Autograff Autograff wrote:


Quite like the name myself
I was wondering earlier today about hogs , and quite fancy investing in some,how much do you reckon it costs for 4?Loaded/Unloaded 
cheers



to build 2 i used 5 sheets of ply
so 250 of your english pounds + screws and glue.


Posted By: sKs01
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 9:22pm
plus time for labour, akids should be around by the start of descember so you can hear for yourself if you like em auto, plus with another 4 the sheffield link ups could be quite ridiculous

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Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 9:38pm
Originally posted by Autograff Autograff wrote:

Quite like the name myself

I was wondering earlier today about hogs , and quite fancy investing in some,how much do you reckon it costs for 4?Loaded/Unloaded 

cheers


I´ve done 8 in Denmark for about 4000£ they sound wicked loaded with v18-1000


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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 12 November 2008 at 1:34am
4000 grand
you could have had 8 of something with a better name, and not got your hands dirty


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Posted By: Autograff
Date Posted: 12 November 2008 at 4:25pm
Im looking for someone else to build them preferably 

Ill check Akid's when there done and then decide.


Posted By: sKs01
Date Posted: 13 November 2008 at 10:53pm
dubsub going that cheap these days Mikey?





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Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 14 November 2008 at 8:27am
Originally posted by sKs01 sKs01 wrote:

dubsub going that cheap these days Mikey?





Maybe its not the dubsub, remember Mikey makes scoops too.


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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 14 November 2008 at 3:38pm
DubSub is a scoop

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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 14 November 2008 at 3:40pm
sKs01
what do you mean?


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Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 14 November 2008 at 8:02pm
Originally posted by mykey mykey wrote:

4000 grand
you could have had 8 of something with a better name, and not got your hands dirty


it don´t say dubsub maybe it´s the brute who knowsTongueTongueTongue


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Posted By: sKs01
Date Posted: 16 November 2008 at 4:23pm
just thinking your trying to tempt me away from building hogs, if the price is right. with the time we've got available its worth looking into...

so, what cab you talking about mykey?


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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 17 November 2008 at 2:36am
No I wasn't trying to do that, I didn't know you were buliding Hog's
It seem's allot of people in Shefield are going to have hog's? you could try and be different
 
I will do the first lot at a very reasonable price, but as soon as the review comes out in pro-Audio, the price will go up, so discount for SP and FSP members
 
also factory built serial numbered, branded cabs will have good re-sale value, thats if you ever sell them
my old scoops never come up for sale, not unless someone is desperado
 
 
I can show you the difference between the hog and the DubSub
DubSub grey, F3  31hz 
Hog black, F3  33/4 hz
this is only a sim remember, I have never heard the Hog so I can't say
 
The 43.5hz note from Rog's test track is outstanding
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