Lenco
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Topic: Lenco
Posted By: The Builder
Subject: Lenco
Date Posted: 25 March 2010 at 9:42pm
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Posted By: Nitz V1505
Date Posted: 26 March 2010 at 5:30am
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Wicked turntable,classic idler wheel driven design which is better than direct drive or belt driven but extremely difficult to design and produce. Swiss engineering akin to their watches!!!! Nice mixer too!!!!  ------------- LET THE BASS ROLL LIKE THUNDER & THE TOPS LIKE LIGHTNING..... |
Posted By: cnc123
Date Posted: 26 March 2010 at 11:18am
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nitz the goldring lenco is a good deck and its like the very old white garrard in that its got speed control by moving the leaver slightly but its a bit of a feed back merchant like the standard technics no centring spring but you cant beat direct drive the first i see was the garrard dd75 but no springs and the speed control runs off the mains and is just unreliable not like a technics off a crystal records are cut on a extremely heavy deck that's direct drive |
Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 26 March 2010 at 12:40pm
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Actually it is belt drive turntables that have become the standard for HQ. Idler wheel turntables were incredibly easy to make and most of the 60s/70s turntables were of his kind. Mass produced types i.e. Garrard SP25 BSR MP60 etc even proved that they could be made cheaply with acceptable performance. The only difficult part was to make them of really high quality i.e the Garrard 301/401 and they are even revered to this day. Once belt drive came along, Thorens TD150 etc their days were numbered. Direct drive jobbies were often used for Pro use due to their very quick start-up times but they never really caught on with the flat earth society. Tony |
Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 26 March 2010 at 3:30pm
 There were a few high-end direct drive turntables that are still sort-after by the trainspotters,there was a particually nice Denon one,and of course the Technics SP10 in its hideously expensive technics factory plinth (last one i saw on ebay went for around £700,and it was scratched-up with a broken lid!).
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Tony Wilkes wrote:Posted By: Nitz V1505
Date Posted: 26 March 2010 at 3:31pm
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Check out this reveiw chaps- http://www.hi-fiworld.co.uk/hfw/featureshtml/garrard401sndqual.html Agreed Tony the 401 and 301 are wicked decks ,I have both with sme 3009 mk1 and 2 and these were the decks I was refering to. Ive got a 4hf too but not on the same level,but is good in its own way. ------------- LET THE BASS ROLL LIKE THUNDER & THE TOPS LIKE LIGHTNING..... |
Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 26 March 2010 at 3:55pm
When I started DJing it was with a pair of SP25 mk II but soon moved on to 401's + SME's we used to do some really posh Doo's for Knobs birthdays etc. even had a Candelabra between the decks. Amps were Leak and Radford valve jobbies and speakers home made with at first Wharfedale Super RS12DD + Super 3's and later Goodmans Axiom series, Imagine what the Japs would pay for it all now. Ian the real flat earthers reckoned that the speed feedback circuit in the direct drive turntable always made the sound inferior due to the speed constantly hunting, got to admit I could never hear it. Tony |
Posted By: Nitz V1505
Date Posted: 26 March 2010 at 6:27pm
The other thing,whilst watching Good morning vietnam in the radio station studio you can see two 401/sme 3009 decks in action!!!! Im also a big fan of Radford amps.------------- LET THE BASS ROLL LIKE THUNDER & THE TOPS LIKE LIGHTNING..... |
Posted By: jazomir
Date Posted: 29 March 2010 at 9:13pm
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For all you flat earthers, here is some turntable porn: http://www.rewindmuseum.com/vintageturntable.htm - http://www.rewindmuseum.com/vintageturntable.htm I myself started my hifi life with a GL75 (later used a couple in an unsuccessful DJ console), progressed on to a Technics SL1700 (consumer version of the 1200) then to a Thorens TD160 with SME arm (including oil damping - where do you buy that stuff nowadays?). To be honest, the Thorens/SME combination sounds really good, but I would give it up for a new SL1200 or even better an SP10 shown earlier in the thread simply for practicality. The Thorens is constantly in need of repair (all parts come from the States, now similarly my V15E stylii) and the SME is like an old Lotus car - great when it's going but needs tuning every few hours for maximum results. (Of course, there was always the Revox deck with parallel tracking arm - I saw it demonstrated many moons ago by a guy hitting the table it was standing on with his shoe with no skipping. http://www.vinylengine.com/phpBB2/album_cat.php?cat_id=69 - http://www.vinylengine.com/phpBB2/album_cat.php?cat_id=69 - it might not sound good, but it looks really cool!) ------------- For sidefills, can we have two enormous things of a type that might be venerated as Gods by the inhabitants of Easter Island, capable of reaching volumes that would make Beelzebub soil his pants. |
Posted By: billso
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 11:40am
As we have a bit of a tt geek thread going on here is a pic of my beloved 401.Currently it is mounted in an offcut of kitchen worktop as i just wanted to see how it got on with the rb250 tonearm while i sourced all the bits to restore the original sme arm.As it goes im very happy with how the rb250 matches the 401 so i think the mk2 plinth will have both arms mounted.
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Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 12:05pm
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Cor that brings back memories. Have you sussed out how the speed fine tune works yet? Think eddy current. Do you still have the printed disc that goes in the centre of the rubber mat? Tony |
Posted By: billso
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 12:26pm
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Yep i have fully striped and rebuilt it including a complete strip down of the electric motor and that really was a nightmare job to get it all properly aligned again.(this comprissed of running the motor out of the chassis whilst listening with a stethoscope and hitting the two parts of the motor shell with the handle of a hammer untill it was as silent as possible).
I sadly dont have the printed disc and im not sure i have seen one? but i do have the manual,template and warranty card.
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Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 1:07pm
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Lovely piece of kit there Billso...nice restoration too,well done,any idea of the approx.age of that chassis? im guessing very early 1970's? ------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: billso
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 1:48pm
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I have had the tt about ten years now and it was about 4 years ago when i rebuilt it.I cant remember for sure now but i think it is from more lik 67/68 it had a pretty early sme with it. The later ones that i have seen have a differnt strobe light and the logo is a sticker rather than a casting. |
Posted By: Nitz V1505
Date Posted: 31 March 2010 at 7:52pm
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The 401 replaced the 301 in 1965 and was produced up until 1977. My decks are packed away in boxes at the moment so was unable to post any pictures but will do as soon as I set em up. That plinth u got looks really neat . Im after a decent plinth for my 401. ------------- LET THE BASS ROLL LIKE THUNDER & THE TOPS LIKE LIGHTNING..... |
Posted By: Stepping Razor
Date Posted: 05 April 2010 at 2:16pm
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1959: Lenco L70 is introduced
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kho/viewtopic2.php.html">
 1965: Lenco L77 is introduced
 Lenco B51
Circa 1963-1964. This is the follow up to the long-lasting series of classic 1950's Lenco's: the F50-8 and B50  Lenco B52 MK1
 Lenco B52 MK2
 B52 MK3
Circa 1969-1970   The B52 MK3 on the picture above has an unusual aftermarket plinth.
Lenco B55
   Around 1973-1974 the L58 is introduced
 L58-S (aka B55-S)
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Posted By: jazomir
Date Posted: 12 April 2010 at 9:45pm
...bad move. I did that with my Thorens in 1993 - got it out again 14 or15 years later and have spent most of the time since then getting it working properly. Of course, it could be worse - you could have put all your vinyl in boxes - it should be part of today's marriage vows after the usual 'love, honour & obey' there should be '...and promise not to insist my loved one's vinyl be banished to the attic.' ------------- For sidefills, can we have two enormous things of a type that might be venerated as Gods by the inhabitants of Easter Island, capable of reaching volumes that would make Beelzebub soil his pants. |
Posted By: Stepping Razor
Date Posted: 12 April 2010 at 10:18pm
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THORENS 125 MK 2  |
Posted By: Stepping Razor
Date Posted: 12 April 2010 at 10:21pm
THORENS TD 124 MK2
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Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 13 April 2010 at 9:05am
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The 125 is the turntable that I most regret not purchasing. A mate of mine still has one that he uses with a 3009 mkII and a V15 and he only has me round his place so he can gloat. The big thing at the time when they came out was to hold listening sessions with the 125 and the Connoisseur BD1 (Kit or ready made) to see if anyone could hear a difference. Tony |
Posted By: Nitz V1505
Date Posted: 13 April 2010 at 11:33am
the 4hf took a little while longer,I think it might need a new idler wheel. Anyone know Dr Bastions number? ------------- LET THE BASS ROLL LIKE THUNDER & THE TOPS LIKE LIGHTNING..... |
Posted By: Nitz V1505
Date Posted: 13 April 2010 at 11:50am
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Posted By: Deadbeat
Date Posted: 24 April 2010 at 6:23pm
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I have a Lenco L75 that I'm modding. Will post pics when done. With appropriate plinth mods, new tonearm, etc, I'm hoping it'll replace my old old Rega. ------------- Away on extended leave. |
Posted By: billso
Date Posted: 24 April 2010 at 8:14pm
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Hi deadbeat what rega are you using at the moment?
A couple of years ago just to prove a point to a friend about how bad the p3 sounds i bolted my rb300 to a tidy lenco i picked up for a fiver and played it against the p3.
I had not even cleaned or oiled the lenco and it still wiped the floor with the rega.
Both tts had the same cartridge fitted (goldring 1042).
My friend payed me a fiver on the spot and put the armless rega on ebay.
I think with a bit of thought about the perfect plinth and arm combo a lenco could easily compete against 401s/301s/124s.
Keep us posted on how you get on.
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Posted By: billso
Date Posted: 24 April 2010 at 8:28pm
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Nitz these guys also make idler wheels they are not cheap and i have never seen one but i belive the 4hf and the 301 used the same part?
http://www.perfectsound.co.uk/301IdlerWheel.htm - http://www.perfectsound.co.uk/301IdlerWheel.htm
I have also sent you the number i have for martin.
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Posted By: TRE4U2NV
Date Posted: 25 April 2010 at 2:37am
sold my thoren 125 to deny tricketts bell st nw8 anyone on hear remember his shop memories ------------- IM SO SECRETIVE BUT I CANT TELL YOU WHY |
Posted By: Nitz V1505
Date Posted: 25 April 2010 at 12:34pm
I lost their number so if anyone can help it would most appreciated . EDIT- found it !!!! 01892 654534.
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Posted By: Non-Smoking Man
Date Posted: 13 July 2011 at 2:19pm
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Yes I remember 'tricky' Trickett. Bought a TD150 off him way back. Now trading as GT Audio. ------------- Science over Religion |
Posted By: TRE4U2NV
Date Posted: 13 July 2011 at 10:38pm
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is he still in bell street i know last time i went there was a business in the shop doing old analouge audio for hire not for sale and no sign of deny mainly for photo shoots and filming ------------- IM SO SECRETIVE BUT I CANT TELL YOU WHY |