Roots Rules
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Forum Name: Roots n Culture Forum
Forum Description: Talk about speaker box with other sounds here
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Topic: Roots Rules
Posted By: Rog
Subject: Roots Rules
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 4:19am
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Don‘―t go clogging up the rest of the forums with talk of who has the heaviest b line as they isn‘―t interested. Compete with who has the best set and talk about speaker box here only. If you have scoop and preamp and want to mash up the place, or want to invite other sound to play their set you need to do it in dis section. Rog Mogale.
Ps‘.. Me scoops are better dan yours. Nuff respect. |
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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 6:58am
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have you tried "BLEACH" works wonders DEAR ROGER! whats with the wording and spelling ROG?????? isnt that "DIS"- RESPECTFULL we are grown ups on here you know! and shouldnt the title be "ROOTS POLITICS" it does exist ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 7:27am
 fair play rog!
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Posted By: Rog
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 9:40am
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Mykey, Have you ever tired boot polish "shouldnt the title be "ROOTS POLITICS" it does exist" No, it should be whatever I want it to be as its my forum I just wanted to give the community a place to chat and clear the air. A place free from the capitalist vultures that have misguided those with so much to lose for so long. Maybe its time some learnt how to look from the shadows into the light. I also think its better to provoke a reaction though debate than economics, hence this new 'sale free' forum. How are your designs coming along these days Michael? Let me quickly tell you something this guy called Rog, or was it Roger said to me once. He said, if you think about how much money you will make when designing a speaker, you might design a good one, but it will not have been your heart guiding you head. Don't lose your way speakerplans, try hard to keep the vampires from the door. They have tasted blood and won't let go. Loads of love and remember your roots, Rog Mogale. |
Posted By: DUBPLATE
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 10:56am
| i don't know if it was me that caused this but i am not bothered with who is the heaviest or not buying a box from such & such because him down the road bought his stuff from him up the road, i agree with mykey there is to much politics between the (roots sound system man) not the music itself & what i don't understand is these guys are supposed to be righteous & conscious people ??? |
Posted By: Drutt
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 11:39am
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This place is just great!! More comedy than bbc three... |
Posted By: Tom Umney
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 1:49pm
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Nice to hear from you again Rog. Yeah reggae sound systems are a different kettle of fish as they class the scoop bin as an 'instrament'. And the love of piezos only comes from people who own reggae sound systems. But they quite frankly they sound awful and hurt you ears. No offence but why on earth would a soundsystem want to use tons of piezos that sound awful???? Maybe cos of the low cost, you get piezos in toys for christ sake. Maybe cos piezos are another 'instrament'
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Posted By: Noyzmunky
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 8:24pm
it is only then you see how long your shadow has grown. ------------- my name is Inigo Montoya...you killed my father, prepare to die!. |
Rog Mogale wrote:Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 23 March 2006 at 8:41pm
 KIWI ?  not me but, allot of people suffer from poisoning on here
good come back Roger! oops! Rog! ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 25 March 2006 at 4:08pm
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[QUOTE=Rog Mogale]
"shouldnt the title be "ROOTS POLITICS" it does exist" No, it should be whatever I want it to be as its my forum
that made me laugh! ------------- me so horny me love you long throw horn loaded for her pleasure |
Posted By: Matthias
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 9:17am
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good idea this forum
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Posted By: mskeete
Date Posted: 26 March 2006 at 4:39pm
Toxic, there are plenty of reggae sound systems that don't use piezos and wouldn't touch them with a barge pole Some of those sound still sound crap but that's not due to the drivers that they use |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 27 March 2006 at 5:33am
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QUOTE. myskeete Some of those sound still sound crap but that's not due to the drivers that they use.
care to tell 1. the engineer 2. the dub-plates wearing out 3. the weed's too strong 4. the "Killer", "Destroyer" amplifier's 5. or the "Short Bread tin" pre-amp's , kkkksshh! kkksshhh! comin car 22, pick up at walthamstow drop off at Wipps Cross, Russian birds about to knock one out! (give birth) that's not a pop at you mskeete, just having a bit of fun, you make good pre-amp's but please tell dont leave us in suspense ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: mskeete
Date Posted: 27 March 2006 at 6:22pm
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LOL Some know exactly what they want but due to budgets.... That car 22 certainly gets about!!! |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 28 March 2006 at 12:54am
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qoute. mskeete! And there are those that think that a sound system that sounds just like a hifi (decent balanced frequency response) doesn't sound right got to go, car 22's outside! ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: Dubaholic
Date Posted: 28 March 2006 at 6:03am
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i
think a sound system needs piezos to get the right highs, ive heard
sounds without them and they havent got the best top section. but some
sounds do have to many, but then they run them quieter so they last
longer. i think instead of buying loads of cheapies you should get some
more expensive ones. look at shaka he would only have a couple of
piezos on each stack and he's not missing treble. |
Posted By: Tom Umney
Date Posted: 28 March 2006 at 2:53pm
| Nope titanium bullets or slots do super highs much better then piezos, and sound much better and don't make your ears ring as much afterwards. |
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 28 March 2006 at 11:20pm
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TOXIC why do you hate piezo's so much? i'll play them to you and you would be shocked, specially off a QUAD 520s / 520f stop sl*gging them off please, you just havn't heard them right that's all like i said before if John Meyer use's them in his cab's then they cant be bad ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: Dubaholic
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 6:54am
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i went to jah tubbys last night yes tuesday and his tops sound
crisp and he uses piezos. it was only a small club and he was using 4
scoops, a double 18 reflex, 4 x 12" mids and about 30 piezos. all
speakers were pd's. ill tell you he was rippin. !Babylon Fall Down!
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Posted By: Tom Umney
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 3:57pm
Piezos always sound like sh*te if used on their own without a filter above 8khz. I heard many stacks with piezos and didn't like the top end on any of them. LOL John Meyer doesn't use piezos strictly on their own, they are used with a filter on a special waveguide. And I recon they must sound like sh*te too. I heard the Community cabs with piezo top end and they sounded sh*te also. And even piezos on a waveguide with a special filter, like what Cerwin Vega uses in V-252 and the single 15 inch version also.They don't sound that nice either.
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Posted By: Tom Umney
Date Posted: 29 March 2006 at 3:59pm
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You must have been smoking something m8.
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Cos last time I heard Jah Tubby's with the 30 or so piezos, it hurt my ears, sounded very harsh and my ears were ringing loudly for days afterwards.Posted By: mskeete
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 5:58am
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That doesn't mean it was because he was using piezos although I think 30 in one box is too much |
Posted By: Dubaholic
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 9:35am
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yes my ears ring constant toxic i cant remember not having ringing
ears. i do think tubbys has always had to many piezos look at the old
boxes shanti had off him but then his tops does sound good once u have
got used to it. tubbys had 4 12s
then in the same box 10 piezos that would of been enough but then he
had another 2 boxes of piezos which had 10 in each. i do
think that sounds should run big compression horns and bout 10
piezos or bullets to each big stack. peace
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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 30 March 2006 at 11:46am
toxic there not ment to be used on there own 
if used on there own means without filters? so you have been using them fullrange have you
did you tell your doctor that when you had your ears tested, how are they now, still sh-te? ------------- ......just all them hanging there like giant bananas. |
Posted By: Strange Daze
Date Posted: 19 October 2006 at 7:34am
id agree...
ive got 48 motorola piezos for when we need to reinforce the big dub sound.....
They get high pass at 5khz, run thru a graphic...and they aint bad..
Clearly i used comp drivers for anything else....
but eh....lets keep it roots!!!
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Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 29 April 2007 at 3:43am
To be honest i've not heard many roots systems but piezos do have a certain crispness and 'crack' to them that i've not heeard from any comp driver, hard to describe but less fizzy and more attack. Certainly a unique sound and very nice if not overdone/overdriven, although not neccessarily a true representation of the source material - but then thats not always desired!!  ------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: paulus
Date Posted: 01 August 2007 at 3:55pm
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piezos sound like knifes and forks being scraped toghter hurt your teeth but all used um at begining well i did ha ------------- TRENDSETTER SOUND SYSTEM |
Posted By: Jhodas
Date Posted: 08 August 2007 at 7:16pm
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Don't think I've heard piezos sound nice. Usually just sounds like white noise over the top of the track. Titanium tweeters sound 'splashy' but I think they have better definition. OTOH... One thing that strikes me is that supertweeters only have to cover an octave and a bit, and anything above about 10k is a hiss or a whine to the human ear, so if there's too much of it, it WILL sound harsh. ------------- Until the Lions have their own historians, tales of hunting will always glorify the hunter. |
Posted By: Freddy Hopper
Date Posted: 09 August 2007 at 10:52pm
You love em. you love em. you love em. you love em.
next thing you'll be telling me speakons, 8 poles and XLRs are a good idea. ------------- TAIL LIFT |
Posted By: Humble Tafari
Date Posted: 25 October 2007 at 3:04pm
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respeks ------------- Liberate the minds of men, and you will ultimately liberate the bodies of men - Marcus Mosiah Garvey |
Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: 13 January 2008 at 10:37am
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Rog I've gotta say I'm disappointed, I would've thought someone who's been doing speakers for so long would have the lingua down a bit better than that! Maybe you need to spend a little less time helping Void make ridiculously good amps and brush up on your patois instead!  |
Posted By: sheffield-junglist
Date Posted: 08 March 2009 at 10:29pm
I agree! I love both of these types of tweeter, really crisp and nice but don't hurt your ears. Slots are insanely useful for dispersion also, just aim em so their skimming the crowds heads, jobs a good un edit: I know some proper techie is gunna say summat about this not necessarily being the case ------------- |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 09 June 2009 at 9:03pm
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OK, cheers. ------------- **Heavy Weight-Line** A home without books is like a body with no soul. |
Posted By: Humble Tafari
Date Posted: 09 June 2009 at 10:48pm
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Makes sense to me.
As this site currently allow free promotional adverts for the dances.
Charity events is definitely understandable.
Respeks ------------- Liberate the minds of men, and you will ultimately liberate the bodies of men - Marcus Mosiah Garvey |
Posted By: Heathrow_B_line
Date Posted: 09 June 2009 at 10:54pm
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this is silly
the way the threads work is
first the flers areposted up
then people say if they will go
then the night happens
then the people that went tell us all about the soundsystems and which sounded better?
move it to unmoderated if you want but dont censor it!
time to give fsp another look i think ------------- Produce a killer sound. Take no prisoners. |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 09 June 2009 at 11:45pm
Do you mean http://www.freespeakerplans.com/ - http://www.freespeakerplans.com/ ? ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: flyer
Date Posted: 10 June 2009 at 2:25am
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the roots n culture section will be empty very very soon..... ive read frm page 1 - 3 & most post are session promotions
------------- IT WILL BE A GOOD SESSION |
Posted By: Dub Defector
Date Posted: 12 June 2009 at 10:49am
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While i agree that there are far too many events posted here (and not enough chat) i think some people rely on these type of posts to keep up with who's playing out, good venues, new sounds in the arena etc etc and as HBL pointed out these can start good conversations off. Β At the very least you could post up some links to sites that allow/encourage for this type of listing and theΒ subsequentΒ chat/discussion.. the Blood & Fire Live events section is a good example:Β http://www.bloodandfire.co.uk/db/viewforum.php?f=2 - http://www.bloodandfire.co.uk/db/viewforum.php?f=2
------------- Rough Every Time... http://www.dubselector.co.uk - http://www.dubselector.co.uk |
Posted By: spanners
Date Posted: 16 July 2009 at 9:35am
| its alll relevent hey!! once my friend asked aba shanti to turn his tops down a bit!!! he did aswell and it did sound nicer!! I find jah tubbys tweeters a little too tweety and many other systems are the same...... just a bit too piercy!? cant argue with Jah tubbys for steppers vibe tho!!!! tuff tuff and more tuff!!! |
Posted By: spanners
Date Posted: 16 July 2009 at 9:37am
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someone said to me once... your ears should never hurt!!! |
Posted By: bass traffic
Date Posted: 01 June 2010 at 4:11am
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Date Posted: 15 February 2013 at 5:28pm
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 15 February 2013 at 6:01pm
Good way to get banned? Maybe better in Events & Ting? ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: dan i dubdub
Date Posted: 15 February 2013 at 7:57pm
| There's lots of stuff going on in Events and Ting - seems like the right place. Roots n Culture section should be broader than just that surely? We've all got stuff to promote, so keep it in the right place and keep some areas clean I say |
Posted By: Dub Specialist
Date Posted: 15 February 2013 at 8:49pm
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o ------------- treat all creation with respect. For music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion! MUSIC IS LIFE 
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Posted By: BristolDubClub
Date Posted: 18 February 2013 at 7:48pm
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hi, i am new to speakerplans! cheers for letting me know, i did not see the events forum :) blessed love
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Posted By: WILL*
Date Posted: 10 April 2013 at 7:42pm
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Posted By: championdrei
Date Posted: 07 May 2013 at 5:14pm
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maybe its the piezos some sounds are buying why they sound awful... i have the original motorola piezos from the 80's and they sound crystal clear and dont hurt peoples ears... what type of tweeters do you guys use? and to me, the sound system ting isn't like how it was back in the days... their was more vibes and ting back then and it wasn't as restricted as it is now. Before, you could play sound system straight till the morning and not get told to lock off by the police or something ------------- respect |