Hoggs with v18's/pd1850/pd1851
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Topic: Hoggs with v18's/pd1850/pd1851
Posted By: Night Hawk
Subject: Hoggs with v18's/pd1850/pd1851
Date Posted: 24 February 2012 at 11:35am
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Safe guys, I don't suppose any of you are lucky enough to have access to hoggs and all three of the above drivers do you? I'm wanting to know how much better the sound of the 1851's is than that of the v18 or 1850 when loaded in piggies. Does anyone have any advice they can give me as to what to load them with? Cheers :) -------------  |
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Posted By: bass*en*mass
Date Posted: 24 February 2012 at 11:50am
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you get what you pay for.. ask fuzzylogic or electrikal on here, both had 1850s in their hogs, both have 1851s now. V18-1000s will work fine aswell, bit more efficient but not the spl of a 1851 in anger. budget decides, all 3 work well! |
Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 24 February 2012 at 11:58am
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+1 also depends on if you have a good amp to push them , we run 6 hog V18 loaded thru an inf8mk2 they sound great . ------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 24 February 2012 at 1:12pm
V18-1000 is a lovely driver. "bit more efficient but not the spl of a 1851 in anger." Will test that statement out next week, not in a HOG though.  ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
bass*en*mass wrote:Posted By: JR.junior
Date Posted: 24 February 2012 at 1:19pm
some youtube maybe?  ------------- Support the scoop technology, larger mouth plays louder! |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 24 February 2012 at 2:33pm
Don't think youtube conveys the 40z experience you get witnessing in person, somehow.. But maybe..  ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: Autograff
Date Posted: 24 February 2012 at 3:28pm
| V18-1200's sound ok in hogs. |
Posted By: Night Hawk
Date Posted: 24 February 2012 at 4:05pm
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Interesting, nice to know that Elecktrical use 1851's, not heard their rig but they seem very much in-tune with their gear. Infinate 8 with 1851's in the hoggs would be a dream setup if we can get the cash together... ------------- |
Posted By: Twirl
Date Posted: 25 February 2012 at 7:42pm
| I've been finishing off a pair of hogs today, loaded with 51's. Can't help but smile when I hear them. I put a couple of pics in the what have you done to your soundsystem thread. |
Posted By: Night Hawk
Date Posted: 26 February 2012 at 12:45am
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Mate, those hogs are beautiful, and with the ES18 on top looks very tidy. What tops are you getting for it? ------------- |
Posted By: Twirl
Date Posted: 26 February 2012 at 12:49pm
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Posted By: turbo7
Date Posted: 27 February 2012 at 8:14pm
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All i can say is, i heard 6x hogs pd1850 loaded vs. 4x hogs v-18 1000 loaded, the 6 hogs were splitted into 2 stacks of 3 hogs, the V-18 stack was a 4-hogs stack. Both were running from an Infinite 8 ( 3x pd´s each channel, 2x V-18 each channel ) It was surprising that the 4x V-18 1000 hogs completeley owned the 6 pd hogs. I was able to play a bit with parametric eqs to get the right sound out of the pds but it did not work. The only tipp i can give is, never play less than 4 hogs !! They are only working in 4+ stacks. The stack of 4 was brutal
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Posted By: Night Hawk
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 2:35pm
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Excellent news... Loans are though and we have scraped enough cash to look at loading our hoggs. Can anyone shead any more light onto weather or not 1851's are truly worth almost double that of the v-18's? In my eyes it's between the v-18's and the 1851's, if I'm going to spend over 300 then I might as well go for the 51's over the 50's. Has anyone A-B'd these? ------------- |
Posted By: bass*en*mass
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 2:37pm
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fuzzylogic.. elektrical.. ..for sure, some others on here too i guess.. If budget is tight V18s would do, 1851s for hooligans only :) Depends what you are after... |
Posted By: Night Hawk
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 2:42pm
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Cheers :) Would be intreagued what fuzzylogic has to say on the matter though, and some good reasoning as to why one would be better than the other aside from price. ------------- |
Posted By: bass*en*mass
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 2:48pm
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you simply can push the 51s more than others.. sounds dont differ that much afaik/heard, just the max SPL is increased by using 1851s. need a strong amp though - they take clean 1500W in hogs.. think qss did some tests on these. |
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 3:02pm
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I wonder why no one is considering some more modern drivers like 18NLW9600 or 18SW115? They should be superior to the PDs. ------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
Posted By: Night Hawk
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 3:04pm
Would you mind explaining why please?
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Posted By: bass*en*mass
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 3:20pm
| They are almost twice the price in uk, one good point not to go for these :) |
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 3:21pm
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Why? Bigger X-max Bigger X-damage Bigger VC Bigger power Overall better vc and cone material (aluminum clad wire 4 leyers for the 9600, meaning much better heat dissipation then copper) Triple suspension vs double suspension Demodulating rings for lower distortion Half the weight vs 1851 You need more? ------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
Posted By: ape3435
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 3:36pm
| Don't see no reason to spend twice the amount for an eighteen sound when the PDs does the job, besides, the 18NLW9600 uses more wattage which means bigger amplifier thus more cash...again, and any damage to these would cost a fortune. guess it all depends on location and this is England. |
Posted By: Night Hawk
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 3:48pm
Was just comparing them then, I guess that's where they are almost another 100 quid again on top of the 51's. That is definitely out of my budget unfortunately. Could sell my kidneys I suppose. I do know that V-18's sound very nice in hoggs, as I regularly hear Neverlution spanking theirs here there and everywhere. ------------- |
Posted By: ape3435
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 3:56pm
| There you go then, sorted. If you can afford the 51s then get them, if not get the V18s. If you can purchase bigger wattage amplifiers, find extra cash, then 18sound. for me, the V18s are good. |
Posted By: Night Hawk
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 4:08pm
This is what I'm trying to get to the route of though, the V-18's are good, but are the pd1851's £120's worth better? Or, would that money that I could save getting the V-18's be better spent on going towards a good quality amp? ------------- |
Posted By: bass*en*mass
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 4:15pm
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again, depends what youre after.. if theres a few sounds around you using v18 loaded ones i would say thats the way to go, if you dont want to link up with them but get a different beast go for 51s. Amp in both cases should be up for the job... |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 4:16pm
All look nice and impressive in the glossy PDF, but when you analyse "the important facts & figures", different story.  Qes - Higher than PD1850, Already indicates lower efficiency Qts - " " " , Will not work well in many "tight" throat scoops Vas - Very low, will not move as much air in sub range as PD1850 BL - Lower than 1850, so less control Ref Efficiency (No) - 1.9255, much less than PD1850(2.88), more power req to match PD O/P Rear baffle cutout - 422mm - Will not fit PD cutout, Total depth - 237.5mm - Deeper than PD1850, will not fit many cabs designed for PD. This driver maybe great for dance/pop music, but is so obvious this driver is not superior to PD1850 in suitable scoops. Even V18-1000 is superior to this, and that only costs £220 in UK. Above if is typical for many of the hugely expensive, so called "Neo PD1850 killers", that just don't meet the hype. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 4:23pm
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You need to have one of these so you can see and hear with your own eyes. Again i wonder, if it is such a superior driver and as you say much cheaper, why it is not used anywhere in the major manufacturers boxes? Are they all stupid, or just not as greedy as they seems to be. And we are comparing 1851 here because people says sounds better in hogs. Now compare 1851 not 1850 with that data you posted on 18NLW9600. You will find is extremely close. With 18Sound being a lot better :-) ------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
Posted By: Night Hawk
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 4:32pm
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I just did some sums and realised that with the amount we have in the bank, I could get 2 v-18's and a proline 3000. A combination I've been aiming for. Would mean I can power half my current rig off the bat. Would the Proline take 2 v-18's off one channel? I know it's slightly under-powered, is this a huge no-no, or would it suffice as a temporary solution until I can afford another amp for my kicks? (two 186 W bins) ------------- |
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 4:35pm
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Should be just fine. ------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
Posted By: PauliePaul
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 5:04pm
Without going on, Tony A.S.S. and I did some tests between the PD.1851 and the 18SW115 around 18 months back. Really and truly there was nothing in it regarding performance apart from the overall tone of the drivers (the PD sounded 'deeper' and from memory was 6 or 8 dB up on the B&C at 44Hz), they outplayed each other at different frequences, but as whole they were basically on par. The two factors that could influence making a choice between the the two drivers would be price (PD wins) and weight (B&C wins). Desirability could also come into it... 10 year old PD.2150's still command strong money, where as I can't get any interest in a near new B&C 21SW150 I have sat here!! |
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 5:13pm
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6 or 8db up at 44Hz is a huge difference. But again if the box was optimized for the PD then if should be about right result. And then again i see no apparent reason why the difference will be that big. ------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
Posted By: PauliePaul
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 5:19pm
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It was/is Tony's RX18 Jnr... optimised for the B&C I believe. Just to re-iterate, they out performed each at various other frequencies by 2 or 3 dB, but the 44Hz one is the one that really springs to mind due to the shear difference in performance at that frequency.
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 5:23pm
Not saying PD1850 is the superior of all 18s, it's is just superior at what it does, in chosen applications. The dance/pop boxes produced by many "major manufacturers", don't need the nuances of the PD1850, no nonsense folded horns like Quake MS18 would. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 5:25pm
As i am aware the RX18 Jnr is optimized for 18TBX100 which is far from 18SW115. So there you go. ------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 5:28pm
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BTW here the PD1850 is about 150 eur more then 18sound 18NLW9600. Now go figure. ------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 5:29pm
Vas & Ref efficiency.. This is why PD will move more air at deeper notes, with higher SPL. parameters reveal all.. Also why I wouldn't need to hear/see the 18 sound driver, if driver is lacking in those two areas compared to the 1850, result is always the same. This is why many people used to buy new ASS scoops with B&C Neos, and then sell the drivers and get PDs. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 5:30pm
 which one?
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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 5:34pm
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18SW115 VAS - 189 PD1851 VAS - 182 Woow, a huge diference that is. :-) What about 12mm vs 15mm xmax and a lot more difference in x-damage? More xmax more displacement isnt it? ------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 5:52pm
I'm talking about PD1850. Regarding Xmax/Xdamage, with so many manufacturers fudging this figure, I prefer considering hc-hg/2, and the driver BL, Vas. This gives an accurate idea of what will be happening with excursion at high power. Also, high efficiency cannot be countered by fairy tale Xdamage figures. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 5:54pm
18sound 18NLW9600 ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: Night Hawk
Date Posted: 24 April 2012 at 8:24pm
I got my maths wrong. I want to be putting much more than 550w/driver into my v18-1000's which is what I would be doing if I ran two off one channel. ------------- |
Posted By: tv00
Date Posted: 07 May 2012 at 9:03am
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I didn't have the time to do any test, but I do have 4 of Francis-build hogs &: Void v-1000's, pd.1850's, rtm 1500's AND rcf lf18n451 laying around. The last one has ok specs I think, at it's only 300 euros & Neo, but the xmax is not as big:
Thiele/Small Parameters
rcf lf21n51 with a BL of 39 or the lf15n451 with a Bl of 33,5 |
Posted By: JR.junior
Date Posted: 07 May 2012 at 9:47am
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fs? ------------- Support the scoop technology, larger mouth plays louder! |
Posted By: tv00
Date Posted: 07 May 2012 at 10:03am
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fs=31hz You can easily Look for yourself =google.com / rcf.it = http://www.rcf.it/en_US/precision-transducers |
Posted By: Tapeworm
Date Posted: 06 June 2012 at 9:25pm
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if you were to run two per channel off a proline 3000 you would be giving them 750w each. wich with a v18 loaded pair of hogs would sound sweet! we ran two of ours off an old wharfdale mp2800 at 8ohms for a while giving them 600 each and never had any complaints. thats the great thing about v18s, they still sound good at lower power, but when you get the amp to spank them, well youve hered ;).....
also when you save up for another amp for your kick section you could get 1100 into them each off the proline if you were to use one per channel so its also pretty future proof.
another plus of you guys getting v18s, link ups!
nuff said :P ------------- http://www.nslproductions.com/" rel="nofollow - NSLproductions.com http://www.neverlution.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - neverlution.co.uk |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 07 June 2012 at 5:47am
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Have been testing new 5"VC UK driver on the block, and to me, sounds like it drops drop deeper/warmer than PD1850/V18-1000/PD 1851, and also stronger than all 3x. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: Tapeworm
Date Posted: 07 June 2012 at 8:53am
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What driver would that be lev? ------------- http://www.nslproductions.com/" rel="nofollow - NSLproductions.com http://www.neverlution.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - neverlution.co.uk |
Posted By: Tapeworm
Date Posted: 07 June 2012 at 8:56am
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ive always wanted to try the Volt RV4514 looks good on paper, but looks like a bugger to re cone, and is quite pricey! ------------- http://www.nslproductions.com/" rel="nofollow - NSLproductions.com http://www.neverlution.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - neverlution.co.uk |
Posted By: paulus
Date Posted: 07 June 2012 at 8:59am
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best I have heard.hogs was 1851 loaded no way the.void or 1850 can touch it on shear air movement ------------- TRENDSETTER SOUND SYSTEM |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 07 June 2012 at 11:46am
Now... How to answer this question without starting World War III...   Let's say it's a British Driver (of course ), 5 "VC, rated approx 1600W.Heard loads of them in Golden Palace on Monday night, and if they were PDs, there would have been plenty of speaker smoke filling the air. They are not as sensitive as PDs, but will take enough power to outplay them, and still survive. Heard this for myself. If I recall correctly, One of the guy's who used to work for PD, designed this monster. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: tv00
Date Posted: 07 June 2012 at 11:54am
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My guess would be Celestion CF18VJD Not too updates with the UK market though, is this a new driver? |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 07 June 2012 at 12:20pm
Came out late last year. People will ask, "what's the point of another 1000W+ driver"? All I can say is, this driver sounds much better than PD1850, and with enough power outplays it, and throws nicely, as opposed to Turbomax. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: ermita
Date Posted: 07 June 2012 at 12:21pm
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Posted By: fuzzylogic
Date Posted: 07 June 2012 at 2:48pm
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Hello,sorry i'm late busy busy an all. I have tried most of the drivers mentioned and ended up here... my experience with 18 sound has been very dissapointing,sound cold and hard, don't take the rated power without cooking too easy, cost a small fortune until you come to sell them second-hand then no-one wants them unless very cheap....my advice...don't go there. If your on a budget you want V18 or the Celestion offering,for the money you get a suprising amount of really good sound,from a driver which handles most you can throw at them. 1850 sounds a little hard also, but more spl than the previous two without a doubt. If you wanna be in the bigboys league then no exceptions 1851s. Sheer SPL with depth and ridiclus power handling. Truly insane amounts of sub,will rinse everything out there.... Until i build the super hog of course. pot stirred,job done. Byee! EDIT have not tried the new Celestion.Sounds like a goer though.Lev knows his stuff,I suggest you give it a try. ------------- NEIGHBOURHOOD SOUNDSYSTEM Infinitely baffled. |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 07 June 2012 at 10:43pm
Yep
 At recent closed doors test, we compared new Celestion & PD1851 in my prototype scoops. Both played warm and very deep, easily better sounding than PD1850 in my books, but obviously not as sensitive. Consensus at this test was the Celestion "seemed" to be the stronger driver, as it "seemed" happier playing every note at power. Obviously not conclusive, as was 1-1 comparison, really needs 2x vs 2x cab scenario. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: Andy Kos
Date Posted: 07 June 2012 at 10:58pm
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Are there many peoplke out there using the Celestions? From my perspective they dont seem to have aroused the level of interest we expected, certainly would be useful to have some more feedback about it...
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Posted By: PauliePaul
Date Posted: 07 June 2012 at 11:08pm
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PD.1852's faired very well in the hog too. Two on two with a pair of PD.1850's... PD.1850's had more SPL at lower levels, but were quite harsh in comparison to the PD.1852's, also the PD.1852's played lots of notes that were not apparent when the PD.1850's were playing. More depth, more power, more notes... and throw too - things were moving and shaking 20+ metres away from the cabs.  |
Posted By: onefootskenk77
Date Posted: 08 June 2012 at 12:37am
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PD.1852? Where have I been or am plastered....... ------------- EMPIRE SOUND |
Posted By: Andy Kos
Date Posted: 08 June 2012 at 12:53am
If the test results come back positive it will move to production ------------- just a guy with a warehouse and a few speakers... www.bluearan.co.uk |
Posted By: grazzeee
Date Posted: 19 June 2012 at 11:56am
| if the results come back positive and they go to production what time frame are we looking at? |
Posted By: PauliePaul
Date Posted: 19 June 2012 at 12:04pm
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Posted By: grazzeee
Date Posted: 19 June 2012 at 12:06pm
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:P well best of luck to you on that one. Im still mega excited about getting my four hogs with pd1851s... the thought of it makes me all jittery ha. |
Posted By: biotec
Date Posted: 19 June 2012 at 12:21pm
Hi mate, which drivers did you try? Did you try the neo 9600? ------------- me so horny, me love you long throw. |
Posted By: suraj@skpl.co.uk
Date Posted: 20 December 2012 at 3:51pm
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Hi there all. A little assistance will be appreciated please. We run a roots sound system and have hog scoops loaded with PD 1850's all sounding very nice powered by Crown 5000VZ 2 drivers a side at 4 ohm. Looking at building some new hogs to extend the system, what recomendations can any one give me if I should put PD 1851's on the new hogs or even wait for the PD 1852's to be available? Also one more thing, I had to drive a 3 hog scoop stack at a particular venue and ran them linked in series at 2.6ohms off a Crown 5000VZ. Unfortunatley they didnt sound very good at all almost very flappy and this was the first time I had linked them like this, they sound fine when normally linked two a side at 4ohm. Wondering if anyone has some thoughts on this. Many thanks
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Posted By: suraj@skpl.co.uk
Date Posted: 20 December 2012 at 3:52pm
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Hi, A little assistance will be appreciated please. We run a roots sound system and have hog scoops loaded with PD 1850's all sounding very nice powered by Crown 5000VZ 2 drivers a side at 4 ohm. Looking at building some new hogs to extend the system, what recomendations can any one give me if I should put PD 1851's on the new hogs or even wait for the PD 1852's to be available? Also one more thing, I had to drive a 3 hog scoop stack at a particular venue and ran them linked in series at 2.6ohms off a Crown 5000VZ. Unfortunatley they didnt sound very good at all almost very flappy and this was the first time I had linked them like this, they sound fine when normally linked two a side at 4ohm. Wondering if anyone has some thoughts on this. Many thanks
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 20 December 2012 at 7:37pm
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Either 4 ohm stereo, or if driving three, 4 ohm one channel, 8 ohm the other. If you were running them at 3x at 2.66 ohm, one one channel, down a long cable, that probably isn't very thick, "didn't sound very good" and "flappy", is exactly what you'll get. Also, the PD1851 is not as sensitive as PD1850, so even though MA5000VZ with half decent supply will give 4x PD1850s good spanking, don't expect the same when driving PD1851s. ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: suraj@skpl.co.uk
Date Posted: 21 December 2012 at 8:12am
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Hi lev. Thanks for the reply mate. Ok if running three hogs. Two on one channel at 4ohm and one on one channel at 8ohm. Would both gains on the amp be ok to be set the same as I would not hear the The difference in sound from the two compaired to the one? Or would it be a case of Keeping an eye on the amp level indicators? Also before when I ran 3 at 2.6ohms off one channel the cable was 4mm thick but the Run was 30meters on the drum. Should that effect the sound to be flappy? Regarding the 1851 being used in the new hogs. Normally we always have a 32amp supply In and I would run two a side at 4ohm on the 5000vz. Think they would sound the same Or better compaired to the existing 1850 hogs x 4? Cheers |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 21 December 2012 at 11:04am
Set levels same, and look at indicators anyway.
Yep. For 25M+, I personally prefer individual pair of cores to each cab, not linked. 8 ohm impedance down 25M of 2.5mm2 has never caused me damping problems or noticeable attenuation of sub. I can get 25M 8x core 2.5mm2 fairly cheap, so that handles 4x subs in a stack nicely. ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: turbo7
Date Posted: 21 December 2012 at 1:08pm
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saying this for the second time, well, i love PD, love the company etc., i have had PD in Sub and still have em in tops, works excellent for me, but really.... please stop the ongoing "pd is king" thing, its not true and many know it, the bad bwoy 18s on a big digam or pkn in hogs slaps every pd vz5000 whatever amp hog day in and day out, absolutely no chance in pressure - try and you will see for yourself, i say this because i bought pd and v-18 years ago ( even v-18 was a touch better in hog )and dont want the people make the same mistake for kings output and still smooth sound, intelligent setup is needed. I kill every pd sound easily trust me ! |
Posted By: suraj@skpl.co.uk
Date Posted: 21 December 2012 at 1:15pm
| Greets Turbo. Thanks for the post. Can you give me the exact make and model numbers of drivers u recomend for the hogs. Cheers |
Posted By: turbo7
Date Posted: 21 December 2012 at 2:22pm
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fuzzy, what are you talking about lol..... if you had the big bwoy 18s maybe the amp didnt like them or what ?! On big amp and right setting it is a no competition thing ! Not even close to every driver i tested so far... but yes aluminium coil is the thing i would change... edit: did you note that they need at least 50hours ( i would say even more ) to be run in proper ? Triple spider ! i saw a huge difference between new and run in. I recommend these because they are soooooooo much better than their contenders and you were dissapointed ( wtf ?! ), you must have had another driver |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 21 December 2012 at 3:09pm
Which drivers exactly you're talking about? ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: turbo7
Date Posted: 21 December 2012 at 3:39pm
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oh i see 18s got some new stuff... 9600 and be aware it is NOT performing out of the box and NOT on vz5000 or any other "standard" amp but if circumstances are right it is hell on earth in a hog. Cant destroy the driver mechanically. Aluminium coil is the only disadvantage but still takes a lot more power than any other speaker mentioned in this thread |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 21 December 2012 at 3:44pm
Seeing as this thread is about PD1850/1851 in Hog, how about you start another thread about "Hogs + 18 Sound 18NLW9600" ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: turbo7
Date Posted: 21 December 2012 at 3:57pm
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sorry beeing ot but somebody mentioned the driver some sites before in this thread so i thought... just wanted to help and clear things, it is such a no brainer in my eyes if amp is available... I dont want to say things i dont do after all but we have a soundclash soon, lots of strong systems ( pd, void loaded scoops etc. ) maybe i could make pics write review, i try fellas, have no camera at the moment.... |
Posted By: Electrikal
Date Posted: 25 April 2013 at 12:33am
| Who has tested hogs with the pd1852's yet? |
Posted By: PauliePaul
Date Posted: 25 April 2013 at 12:36am
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Posted By: Electrikal
Date Posted: 25 April 2013 at 12:45am
| need to build new cabs for them tho :( |
Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 12 May 2013 at 10:14pm
http://www.precision-devices.com/file-downloads/PD1852Datasheet220413.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://www.precision-devices.com/file-downloads/PD1852Datasheet220413.pdf http://www.precision-devices.com/file-downloads/PD1851Datasheet240413.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://www.precision-devices.com/file-downloads/PD1851Datasheet240413.pdf they seem to be the same size so i don´t see why you´d charge a thing. ------------- Music is the strongest form of magic.(+45 31879997)blakmanpro@gmail.com, foa@sweetboxaudio.dk |
Posted By: tv00
Date Posted: 13 May 2013 at 11:13am
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All of you old hogs are pd.1850 loaded now francis, -you should come and enjoy them some day! |
Posted By: Heathrow_B_line
Date Posted: 13 May 2013 at 1:41pm
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put an pd1852 in there ------------- Produce a killer sound. Take no prisoners. |
Posted By: tv00
Date Posted: 13 May 2013 at 1:50pm
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You give them to me then:-) |