whats best for sub dutty
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Topic: whats best for sub dutty
Posted By: UpComingSound
Subject: whats best for sub dutty
Date Posted: 30 September 2015 at 2:24am
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aphex big bottom 204 vs bbe 882I which one is best for sub dutty? |
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Posted By: Conanski
Date Posted: 30 September 2015 at 4:49am
| You mean for proping the door open while you wheel your subs in right? |
Posted By: Sheggy
Date Posted: 30 September 2015 at 7:23am
| easiest way to blow your speakers if you ask me. |
Posted By: _djk_
Date Posted: 30 September 2015 at 7:31am
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Octave dividers quadruple cone excursion. ------------- djk |
Posted By: AlmostSalty
Date Posted: 30 September 2015 at 11:45am
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Watch this video: |
Posted By: snowflake
Date Posted: 30 September 2015 at 12:03pm
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neither of those units are sub-harmonic synthesisers so don't increase cone excursion. the BBE seems to just be a (poor) eq unit thought the review doesn't look at harmonic and transient response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LosL-gdHLpk the Aphex apparently increases the sustain of bass frequencies making them sound louder. http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_11_3/aphex-204-big-bottom-7-2004.html if I was going to try one I would go with the Aphex. Phil
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Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 30 September 2015 at 2:11pm
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Here is a comparison I made with three Subharmonic Synthesizers. I do not use them anymore as my cabinets are capable of playing in the teens in addition to modern music material offers more than enough sub bass within the 20 Hz - 30 Hz region. Best Regards, ------------- Elliot Thompson |
Posted By: UpComingSound
Date Posted: 30 September 2015 at 8:35pm
| so which one is a good unit to invest for now? what you tink Elliot ? |
Posted By: Sheggy
Date Posted: 30 September 2015 at 8:58pm
| Look, it depends what you want to get out of it and whether your system can handle it without incurring damage. Why don't you tell us how you plan to use it and wat kind of music you'll play. It might save you some cash on recones. |
Posted By: AlmostSalty
Date Posted: 30 September 2015 at 9:19pm
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Its humbug, save your money.. |
Posted By: snowflake
Date Posted: 30 September 2015 at 9:39pm
| the only bass enhancers worth using are those that make the bass sound better without massively increasing the amount of power delivered to the speakers or introducing frequencies too low for the speakers. the aphex looks like it might do that though I have never used one. Waves MaxBass does a different thing which might be useful to you if your speakers don't go low enough. look at either or both of those. |
Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 30 September 2015 at 10:43pm
I bought those processors around 25 years
ago when I was using Scoops. Once I got rid of my Scoops and designed my own Double Eighteens Reflex
Subs which were capable of delivering bass within the teens, those processors
went into retirement. I might add Bass today on pre-recorded material offers
far more energy within the 30 – 10 Hz region today than in the 1990s. So if you are using a HPF higher than 20 Hz, a Subharmonic Processor is not for you. The object of that video is for the spectator to let their ears be the deciding factor which processor would fit his/her requirement if need be. The Aphex & Waves are not Sub harmonic Synthesisers as with the dbx and Behringer. The Aphex & Waves merely offer upper harmonic distortion giving the user the illusion that the bass is playing lower. They generally help for those who suffer in the mid bass/low midrange region. This is why, many rock enthusiasts praise the Waves & Aphex. The Aphex is more subtle than the Waves which may be a good or bad thing pending on your requirements. Best Regards, ------------- Elliot Thompson |
UpComingSound wrote:Posted By: _djk_
Date Posted: 30 September 2015 at 11:12pm
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Waves MaxBass 'sounds' OK, but there is no 'feel'.
Good for weddings. ------------- djk |
Posted By: snowflake
Date Posted: 01 October 2015 at 10:20am
| it's not a replacement for subs, but if you don't have subs it is a good substitute. if you don't set it too high you can still get plenty of impact from the 50-100Hz octave and get a decent imitation of the 25-50Hz octave. at moderate volumes it is very difficult to tell the difference between a full rig and tops with Waves. even when I'm running a rig that goes to 30 or 35Hz I often use the Waves Maxbass instead of a HPF. |