Current Windows International Attack..
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Topic: Current Windows International Attack..
Posted By: levyte357-
Subject: Current Windows International Attack..
Date Posted: 13 May 2017 at 1:47pm
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https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/12/nhs_hospital_shut_down_due_to_cyber_attack/" rel="nofollow - https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/12/nhs_hospital_shut_down_due_to_cyber_attack/ Hope all of you stubborn gits, still using Windows XP, on the internet, have got the message.  ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
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Posted By: Sypa
Date Posted: 13 May 2017 at 2:33pm
Here the police got hit hard 
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 13 May 2017 at 2:42pm
Buy £120 pc with Core i5, with Windows 7 COA, free upgrade to Windows 10, and updates.. What the $@#!, is wrong with some personal users? ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Sypa wrote:Posted By: BJtheDJ
Date Posted: 13 May 2017 at 2:57pm
Damn!!!! I do hope that his left arm is not where it appears to be !! |
Posted By: WILLZTHRILLZ
Date Posted: 13 May 2017 at 3:04pm
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Yep, as far as i know nhs is still using xp. Will
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Posted By: shagnasty
Date Posted: 13 May 2017 at 3:24pm
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I use Xp on 4 VMs for various reasons, if you have a closed system there is no such thing as an upgrade, just hassle.... If on the other hand you don't have a closed system and use the internet you may want to consider upgrading... |
Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 13 May 2017 at 7:15pm
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7 is not immune, dealt with it loads. The, "problem" with home users is that a lot, a damn lot only see it as a TV type device. One of my fav calls was an old lady who couldn't explain why her email doesn't work. When I get there the machine has browned out, full on lightning strike down the line across the whole PC. But to her, at 85, her email did not work, that's all it is, an email and skype machine. Other customers I've had for 15 years are now mid 80's, their minds (not all obviously) are sipping and they cannot withhold new info or learn new stuff. The fact that we HAVE to upgrade is what is wrong, it should all have been built properly originally they say. Well they are right, but we know it's not like that, nothing else in their life is like IT. Their car works 15 years later, their TV, lawn mower...... Add tho this a small barely in profit company that is expected to upgrade and a massive thing like the NHS who have to upgrade actual machinery due to the software upgrade. Garages, want your old car diagnosing, XP only software for loads. Old RS232 laptops now going up in value. The constant upgrade is a business model on one hand and needed to keep the baddies at bay another. It's a mess and a damn good living :) ------------- It's everything, not everythink! |
Posted By: bob4
Date Posted: 13 May 2017 at 8:19pm
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Nicky you hit the nail on the head..... Recently i feel a recurring urge to throw all the computers of my household out of the window....... 
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Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 14 May 2017 at 2:46pm
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Ive got and still using xp on pc no probs at all sense it went, dont kno how much longer be ok, ill keep running it till it all dies ------------- Musical Roots Reggae Vibration is Life! for music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion!...MUSIC IS LIFE... |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 14 May 2017 at 7:37pm
Only mentioned '7, as a means to get '10 for free.  For these very reasons, (And being a Linux Developer), All of my home machines are Linux Hosts with Windows VM. Absolutely only have Windows VMs, due to needing Office, MSPaint, Rufus, hornresp, printing/Scanning (manufacturer Linux driver support for this is gash), few other Windows must haves. If Office 365 is absolutely great on Linux Browser, hmmmm.. ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: shagnasty
Date Posted: 15 May 2017 at 1:45am
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Truth is, they should have paid for Symantec, and TBH a near to real air gap...... Linux/OsX user weren't hit as they do f*ck of any use with or without ransom ware!
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Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 15 May 2017 at 7:57am
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Stick Symantec on an old CPU or one of the Argos/PCW 200 quid specials (the ones with the AMD E or Celeron or stripped down Intel CPU that's not fit for purpose so widely marketed) and the machine comes to a standstill. Upgrades again, need more power and ram for your AV. Linux users always seem to have Windows in Virtual...... ------------- It's everything, not everythink! |
Posted By: odc04r
Date Posted: 15 May 2017 at 9:32am
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Nothing wrong with XP, if you had applied the security patches... There's the problem. |
Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 15 May 2017 at 12:07pm
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the problem is due to the way the NHS uses file sharing across different networks, it shouldn't affect home computers ------------- Kevin North Staffordshire |
Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 15 May 2017 at 4:12pm
Agreed BUT: Up until 6 months ago MS had completely screwed up XP/Vista/7 updates. It's well documented. Example http://www.infoworld.com/article/3086811/microsoft-windows/microsoft-releases-kb-3161647-kb-3161608-to-fix-slow-windows-7-update-scans.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.infoworld.com/article/3086811/microsoft-windows/microsoft-releases-kb-3161647-kb-3161608-to-fix-slow-windows-7-update-scans.html So as people were sick of 100% CPU they disabled them on XP. Why wouldn't they, they had been told that's it, no more? On 7 people researched as they were entitled to have the updates and eventually Getting a free AV to run nicely on XP is also a sod and Defender no longer protects. So yeah, if the updates were still on and working (fat chance) all good. The caveat here has to be the systems admins who have all these XP machines on their domains. THEY should have been aware of the patch and tested it and then pushed it out, it's their job, one I wouldn't want that's for sure. ------------- It's everything, not everythink! |
Posted By: markie
Date Posted: 16 May 2017 at 1:17am
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On a slight tangent it's just been on the news that there are indications that the attack came from North Korea. ------------- If it's got wheels or tits it's gonna cost a fortune |
Posted By: shagnasty
Date Posted: 16 May 2017 at 1:54am
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TBH Iran have the best Cyber Attack forces in the world after the US fUcked with their systems, I suggest the Nth K thing is just to wind people up enough to support Trump going head to head in the worlds most dangerous cock wobbling contest. There is quite a lot of crap on Facebook about this, in particular teams of crack IT professionals that reckon they can do a full XP > Migration for the whole NHS in a day full tested, what happened was un-fortunate, but AFAIA it did rely on a nicked key to give the virus free passage across the network, less publicised was IBM rolling out Vista in a multi million $ project and sending people home early to let them in-state XP. ANY network has vulnerabilities ("Air-gaps" are proven to not exist) and the age of XP means exploits are more know, but how is to say W10 does have a massive code hole no-one has found yet. As far as i am aware the NHS systems hit lost no real data as the cryto only ran on local files, not their core data, so once sorted business as usual. One thing to take away for any user on any system.... BACK your stuff up!!!!! |
Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 16 May 2017 at 9:44am
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Yeah, all 100% on the nail. How many places have I instigated offsite backups and they haven't done them or checked the drives even work/logs etc. IT is an inconvenience to them round here, but it is North Devon :) Vista: The 64 bit one was fine, lots of RAM, even the 32 was OK on 3gb, but selling machines with 1gb and low rent no cache hard drives didn't help it's cause. I know of one machine on Vista 4gb (3.4 vis) and a 240gb SSD. It's an early Core2 and it is a joy to use. Old lady just likes it, she's on Firefox and, "does her shopping" on it. Me. I'm waiting for the first iPad worm so we can have an end to BYOD ....  ------------- It's everything, not everythink! |
Posted By: Sinai Sound
Date Posted: 16 May 2017 at 9:59am
I used Vista since the late betas back in 2006 But it was with a Core2Duo at 3.6ghz with 4GB of RAM and RAID 10,000RPM hard disks Ran great!
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Posted By: odc04r
Date Posted: 16 May 2017 at 11:28am
All of that is pretty bad, and MS should be ashamed. I had to clear the update cache on one of my machines but in general haven't had any bother running 7 in the last year. I don't use totally automatic updates, every patch gets manually approved for dl and install. Even when they are working properly I find my machines doing things in the background that I did not ask them to very annoying. But it doesn't absolve anyone from turning off automatic updates to save a bit of convenience! Do it manually if you must to keep the CPU clear for when you need it, change the priority of the task so it doesn't slow everything to a crawl etc. There are options. It's keeping you in beer tokens though right! |
Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 16 May 2017 at 6:30pm
Down here I get called to slow iPads. Shut all the browser windows, teach them how to power off, not sleep, turn the router off and on, collect money, leave. Go back six months later because they can't remember what I told them even though they wrote it down. ------------- It's everything, not everythink! |
Posted By: odc04r
Date Posted: 16 May 2017 at 9:50pm
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I've always thought there was a lot of potential cash in securing peoples networks to keep their kids off the more interesting corners of the internet. But I don't think I could take the customers. |
Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 2:46pm
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Yes! Although I should be grateful I'm losing the will. Might be time for a move? ------------- It's everything, not everythink! |
Posted By: odc04r
Date Posted: 18 May 2017 at 10:46am
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The nice thing about IT is that you can just develop a few more skills and try to entice more business with them. Network security/setup, coding and development etc |