What dedicated wifi router for dsp?
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Topic: What dedicated wifi router for dsp?
Posted By: Shortrope
Subject: What dedicated wifi router for dsp?
Date Posted: 15 May 2017 at 8:32am
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Hey all...recommendations for a small dedicated router to operate a a dsp. All I have at the mo is an old domestic unit, it works fine but it's bulky and I'd like something small that can live in the Amp rack. ------------- My Tinnitus is coming along nicely!! |
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Posted By: fatfreddiescat
Date Posted: 15 May 2017 at 9:02am
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Cheap n cheerful, I have loaded 'LEDE' a fork of openwrt onto a netgear EX2700 which was little more than a brick with the factory firmware and what I had on the junk pile, nice and simple and works for basic wifi to my x32, it's a 'wall wart type device with a single ethernet port and dual antenna 2.4GHz N, no detachable antenna's though. https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/cre/NETGEAR-EX2700-100UKS-WiFi-Range-Extender-Wi-Fi-Booster/B00NIUHAG6" rel="nofollow - https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/cre/NETGEAR-EX2700-100UKS-WiFi-Range-Extender-Wi-Fi-Booster/B00NIUHAG6 https://lede-project.org/toh/hwdata/netgear/netgear_ex2700" rel="nofollow - https://lede-project.org/toh/hwdata/netgear/netgear_ex2700
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Posted By: dylan-penguinmedia
Date Posted: 15 May 2017 at 10:18am
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If you don't mind spending over the odds but want it neat and solid, there's the Nowsonic Stage Router / Pro... Looks good but isn't cheap... |
Posted By: James Tengo
Date Posted: 15 May 2017 at 2:44pm
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I use one of these for remote apps for lighting desks, very happy with range http://uk.tp-link.com/products/details/cat-9_TL-WR710N.html" rel="nofollow - http://uk.tp-link.com/products/details/cat-9_TL-WR710N.html
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Posted By: Shortrope
Date Posted: 16 May 2017 at 9:40pm
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Thanks lads. ------------- My Tinnitus is coming along nicely!! |
Posted By: shagnasty
Date Posted: 16 May 2017 at 11:32pm
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I use a Draytek 29xx 5Ghz series for most things, cheap enough off ebay, you can get rack kits but most of mine are on generic rack shelves, I won't tolerate wall warts so I buy a 12V 1A IEC in PSU them. They aslo let you plug a LTE dongle in so you can run production Wifi (on a different Vlan/Subnet/channel/frequency) if you want as having an old HP B&W laser jet in mons world for channel plots, wine orders etc is handy... I have also used with good result a BT business hub 5G mode only) and an old Virgin Home Hub thingy in 5G.... The Nowsonic thing looks kinda tempting but as reality check I wouldn't buy a Cisco mixing desk and there shouldn't buy a piece of IT kit from an outfit that makes Keyboard stands!!!! I have also put a lot on Zyxel & TP link kit in and I have to say I am impressed |
Posted By: dylan-penguinmedia
Date Posted: 16 May 2017 at 11:54pm
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TP Link stuff is ok budget kit, their Nano Router is good! Ruckus is the one, but £££ |
Posted By: fatfreddiescat
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 7:56am
| For more serious wifi then look at the pro audio equivalents of networking such as th cisco 'cleanair' ap' or something along the lines of of a Mikrotik metal 52ac etc, sticking an ap 'in' a rack from an rf point of view can be about as bad as it gets, idealy wants to be away from obstuctions and local interfereance as possible, the right choice of antennas really helps especially if close coupled to the ap, there are various outdoor grade ap's that run POE, so just need a piece of CAT5 running to them and have the mountings to clamp to a pole, that has the advantage of the ap acting as a head end amp for the remote anttenna. For the size of gigs I'm using my ex2700 for it just sits on the next to the desk on a rack plugged into an extention cable. Any budget solution that is supported by Openwrt or LEDE is worth a shot. |
Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 8:06am
| Ubiquiti NanoStation |
Posted By: fatfreddiescat
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 9:12am
Looks like a good call 
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toastyghost wrote:Posted By: King George
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 10:04pm
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A lot of PA companies use Ubiquiti bullet M5s with a 'donkey' antenna. Pico/nanostation is a good call if you don't have an arena to fill!
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 10:39pm
| Just bear in mind you need to be addressing them properly with a fixed network, DHCP isn't gonna fly. |
Posted By: kevinmcdonough
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 11:41pm
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Do you want an actual router, i.e. with a network switch several Ethernet ports for a few devices in the rack? Or do you mean an Access Point, which wpuld just work for a single device? Assuming the later, then ......
I have the titanium 2.4 gig unit for my desk, for ipad control, and it's great. small enough to keep in gig back with a compact antenna and the right cables, so always have it with me even when I'm freelancing, and it fits into a large mic clip (like for a wireless Handheld) so you don't need any weird brackets or anything, you can clip it into a mic stand and get it nice and high over peoples heads. But the whole ubiquiti range is great, including the bigger longer range/more powerful models. Takes a little getting your head round to set up, as kyle says it's proper networking so needs static IPs and things, but its what all the pro companies I've seen use for their networking of big arena and festival systems etc. K
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Posted By: shagnasty
Date Posted: 18 May 2017 at 7:08am
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Oh how these threads crack me up.....  |
Posted By: Shortrope
Date Posted: 18 May 2017 at 7:37am
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Thanks for the info lads. I'm not very fluent on all the terms static ip, dhcp etc.. and what they mean, clarification would be welcome. Currently I have an old domestic router connected to the dsp with a dedicated wifi connection to my laptop, so I'm presuming that would be referred to as a closed network? I don't need a system for large venues, stadiums or multiple dsps. For now anyways I just need to able to make remote changes to a single dsp so was hoping for something inexpensive and simple that can live in the amp rack. ------------- My Tinnitus is coming along nicely!! |
Posted By: kevinmcdonough
Date Posted: 18 May 2017 at 8:03am
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hey The antenna is always the issue, more than the device itself. what always happens with any of these things, be it desk or rack control, or some of the newer wireless mics and IEMs that are running over 2.4ghz, is that it works great at sound check when the venue is empty. However when 200 or 2000 people show up at the venue, all with their phones filling up the air with signal, it all goes to shit. So whatever device you get, make sure it has a decent external antenna that you can get up on a stand of come sort over people's heads. Ideally if the device is living in the rack, it should have a removable antenna or a connection for an external one, which you can link to a little patch panel on the front/back of your rack. This means you can have a decent antenna up on a stand and just run a cable to your rack, connect it to the patch panel on the front which will feed it into the device, and you will have much better range and FAR less problems with signal loss etc. Just using the little antenna built onto a standard router, and having them sitting inside the rack both surrounded by metal cases and electronics of the other equipment, and at knee or at most waist height, will make it much harder to get a solid and reliable connection. K
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