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However I definitely don't get how RCF and DB technologies got away just fine with their +20dB level, and as I already mentioned they were further away from the measurement mic, for the whole 4 days of PL+S.

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All demo rigs should be force fed with exactly the same music and mixes by the shows organisers--this is the only way to have a level playing field, then if any of the manufacturers engineers want to f-ck it up then they are welcome to do so.
At least this way potential buyers get a real true picture.
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Originally posted by Darkstar Darkstar wrote:


However I definitely don't get how RCF and DB technologies got away just fine with their +20dB level, and as I already mentioned they were further away from the measurement mic, for the whole 4 days of PL+S.

They pay.

Yeah, exactly as I thought...
Bass =/= Enough
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Although I agree its there product to show off however they want.
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Originally posted by Darkstar Darkstar wrote:



However I definitely don't get how RCF and DB technologies got away just fine with their +20dB level, and as I already mentioned they were further away from the measurement mic, for the whole 4 days of PL+S.

Money talks. 


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RCF has the biggest booth of them all, plus they pay for that extra stage outside. So money talks, like Elliot said.

When i asked last year for a booth, they told me no problem, but when i asked for a spot outside they told me no free spot in the next 3 years. So we decided not to go to the show.
Then we came to the PSL and realized the second stage was half empty. I got really pissed off.

What was funny it that show organizers measures the SPL A weighted, so basically all that bass from Funktion1 was not measured at all. It was way louder then any other rig and still stayed in the SPL limit.
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Yep, some of the rigs take the proverbial with their bass level. It's odd too, on some days it was going red at 105dBA and others at 100.
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A lot of manufactures use loudness as the key to sales. They realise some soundmen will buy a loudspeaker system based on sheer volume over sound quality. So it is not surprising to hear some companies run their systems just a little too ragged in order to get their attention. Manufactures realise those who own systems that lack bass will more than likely find themselves gravitating to wards a system offering a lot of bass.

 

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What i was saying is that Funktion One realized that they can push their subs way louder then the rest and stay well within SPL limits. Because A weighted is high passed at about 150hz. Not sure about the exact frequency, but it basically dont hear the subs at all.
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If I remember correctly, A-Weighting is -3 dB @ 500 Hz.


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-40dB @ 30Hz
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