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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote puffah Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 January 2007 at 1:51am
was thinking that. I found the caire here in the us
for 240 a driver. A little more then I wanted to spend
per speaker. Adds up. Its tuff to pay retail when you
have payed wholesale for so long. Especially when
there are other drivers out there. I like the lower
wattage of the sd 12. My amps would drive them better.
But the retail on the sd 12 is like 268 which is more
than the caire. I have not got my wholesale pricing on
the p audio yet. So I don't know what I will really
pay for them. They also have a fairly small magnet on
them its only like a 80 oz They look pretty bad ass. I
still don't understand why no one has used really
large drivers yet in these type of punisher cabs. Or
re worked them so they would work. The 12" driver in
my truck has more then twice the liner excursion and 3
times the power handeling. I would love to see someone
redesign the punisher for one of these drivers. Or a
folded horn to take one of these monsters. It would be
sick if you had 2 cabs pushing 3000 watts each. I know
they are diffrent style drivers but I don't think
people have looked at some of this stuff in pro audio. Look at the size of the 10" just below. Huge excursion
These are just a couple of the super drivers which are being made now. I know of about 15 more that are just beasts. Some are just raw SPL drivers But some are SQ and sound really good Like the image dynamics ID max 12 here is a pic Most of them have easy recone kits if you blow them. Some are spendie but I can get some of them wholesale. I think the cost on the idmax is only like 175 and they are pretty sick


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Originally posted by Contour Contour wrote:

I have seen pics and specs of Mykey's 12" driver, looks very promising so far. The Ciare however is very good value for money and already has proven itself.
 
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Walt
Hi Contour! very pleased with the outcome, i ripped 3 cones before deciding on the latest cone, very stiff cone,  like a ciare on viagra.
the rubber surround i used was also a little thicker
 
this driver (no name yet) was far better than the ciare more energy little lower and less 'flapping' with power like the ciare
 
 i managed to blow it with 2400 watt's bridged Dynacorde amp after about 20 second's of play, with a brutal track
 
so all in all very pleased
 
 
contour.. the chassis is going to be black
 
the only thing i'm going to have to do is strengthen the punisher with a center brace, because it was beeting the chamber up
 
i also had to stand my (14 stone)90kg weight  on the box to stop it from moving
 
try the Eminence and your gonna tare the cone
 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Contour Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 January 2007 at 6:23am

Hello Mykey,

Nice to hear you had good results with the driver.

Do you have any idea on the price of this driver if you want to buy it in the UK?
 
I think it would now be wise to test a stack of punishers (4 for example) loaded with this driver to see how that goes.
 
Best regards,

Walt



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Originally posted by Contour Contour wrote:

Still it might be very difficult for him to tell how the P-Audio SD-12 performs since he does not have any Ciare 12.00SW to compare with.
 
Best regards,
 
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all I can give you after they are tested, are measurements of 1, 2 , and 4 in  a stack, if Dj DNA willl help...

would this be ok for you?
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mircia bartic
 
do you have ciare's to test them against?
 
doesn't the sd-12 have a alluminium voice coil?
 
it get's pretty hot in there you know


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Hello Mircea,
 
It is not the 1w/1m response that raises my intrest. Indeed simulations show the SD-12 is quite suited when it comes to response. What I like to know is the behaviour at full power. I think such things are hard to measure, a simple A/B comparison makes thing very clear usually. Also how will the cone hold up during use, will it rip after some time? These are thing which you do not measure, you will have to use or test the cabinets for a longer time to find the answers.
 
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Mykey

SD-12 has an Aluminium Ribbon Wire (300 degree)

Contour
I think (hope) the cone will not rip (it is verry stiff and it is one of the best in the world ).

oh well, we will just have to wait and see
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Thats looking nice mykey, simple and purposeful, like PD's do.
 
Be nice to hear feedback about how they sound and compare to others when the time comes
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cheer's norty
i'm pleased with it, it out performed the ciare
 
the chassis will black


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