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mikey bear
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Posted: 29 June 2011 at 11:53pm |
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Knocked this up today after much reading of djk's past posts, loaded with a pair of 1550's...
Only had a few minutes to test it out but sounds quite punchy and appears to exhibit a bandpass effect, rolling off around 300hz, presumably because of the slot. However it doesn't appear to play as low as simmed. Will give it a better work out, and take some measurements, on Sunday! The effective vb is 130l tuned to 38hz, filter assisted (thanks to teslaman for that one) to keep size down as the extra volume of the slot is around 30l and the ports another 25l. Edited by mikey bear - 05 July 2011 at 11:19pm |
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Tony Wilkes
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Regarding simms they rarely do go as low as predicted. You would probably get better results with a dedicated reflex driver. QTS around 0.33 etc.
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mikey bear
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Thanks for the info Tony. Will have another look at it. I only used the 1550's as they were available to borrow. I have a pair of JBL 2206 here which might do well above my bandpass sub in this PPSL loading.
Now lets see if I can get one built before sunday . EDIT: Just to add, gave the cab some juice on Sunday...It appeared to play much better at low volume than when I tested in my garage. However it became apparant as volume was increased that one of the cones had a torn surround causing some very strange noises and stopping any further testing. I'm unable to draw any conclusions about the design at this stage but it certainly looks promising. Edited by mikey bear - 05 July 2011 at 11:32pm |
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_djk_
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Qts=.21
Nice horn driver, will sound very lean as reflex. I find Qts=.312 optimum for PPSL, and use 6dB of boost (HPF Q=2) at Fb. This gives minimum size and maximum bass extension. |
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Mautopsy
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ok, im going to ask a stupid question, i have been trying to figure this out for a while.
are the drivers firing together? (are the cones moving towards each other) or are they wired in parallel? And how are they simmed?
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studio45
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If I wanted to program this setting into a digital LMS that does not offer variable Q highpass filters (eg the DCX2496) would the same response be achieved by using a flat filter (ie Q=0.707) in combination with a PEQ boost of +6dB, at Fb, with Q=2?
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mikey bear
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one of the drivers is wired opposite polarity. simmed as a reflex cabinet. Edited by mikey bear - 03 July 2011 at 11:09pm |
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"If I wanted to program this setting into a digital LMS that does not
offer variable Q highpass filters (eg the DCX2496) would the same
response be achieved by using a flat filter (ie Q=0.707) in combination
with a PEQ boost of +6dB, at Fb, with Q=2?"
Sorry, I don't know the answer to that one. You might have to ask the manufacturer of the LMS that question. You may have to combine a filter with an eq. Any analog eq, crossover, or amp with a high-pass filter can be modified; usually two resistors per channel. (I've been meaning to call Crown and ask about the XTi amplifiers with DSP, if it can be done) |
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Adam_Iron_Horse
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Probably a stupid question and im guessing the answer will be no but Would it work if i flipped a driver round in my G-sub and swapped the polarity on the driver? |
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Peter Jan
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That would work just fine. Just... why would you do that ? |
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mikey bear
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this is the best info i have been able to find with regard to deriving lms settings from high pass filters with a particular q...
i am yet to fully put this info into practice but will be using the 40hz alignment on my mk2 ppsl cab. |
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headcleaner
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ah ha! glad ive seen this. new on here an was just asking on newbie page about a compact 2 x18" solution (didnt know about this page). really interested in how this turns out for you.
im assuming you calculate the volume and port as reflex but what about the slot? |
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