Roots Reggae Systems - Poor low mids

if artists did not like what sounds did with they're tunes, they wouldn't give the sounds dubs to play (with). We entertain. Its what we do. we don't set the eq move away from the deck and dance with the audience. We add something, and there's nothing wrong with that. as long as the operator doesnt screw my ears, i love to hear what he can do to a mix, pull it up again and drop the next 'on the fly mix'. maybe many youth have very little as a refference point to what they could do if the skill existed...

Jah Tubby, where are you....... love to hear your side to this story

valve head777 wrote: if artists did not like what sounds did with they're tunes, they wouldn't give the sounds dubs to play (with). We entertain. Its what we do. we don't set the eq move away from the deck and dance with the audience. We add something, and there's nothing wrong with that. as long as the operator doesnt screw my ears, i love to hear what he can do to a mix, pull it up again and drop the next 'on the fly mix'. maybe many youth have very little as a refference point to what they could do if the skill existed...

Thats true. There is nothing wrong doing your own thing and screwing the eq. It can also make the experience bad. Just like a guitar player who is taking over and playing a solo the whole song.

I think its cool if the operator joins the dance and just leaves the system to do its thing. At the end of the day its about the music not about the guy who is twisting the knobs.

Instead of eqing every song I like to dub the tunes and add a little spice here and there. Too much of that can also destroy the original vibe of the tune.

valve head777 wrote: app wrote: valve head777 wrote: app wrote: [QUOTE=King Simeon]...Each to their own..?  back in the day, it was boom 'n ting.  Old stuff like Studio 1 and Treasure isle recordings are heavy on the lowmids for sure. but the bass exists, you just need to use your pre to pull it out

Ive never had to add any bass to Studio 1 nor Treasure isle recordings. They are heavy as they are. I think the trick was to add a lot of lowmids because the speakers could reproduce it easier than the lows?

Adding harmonics to the bassline makes it heavy without having too much information on the lows (valves). I suppose that was the point in studio 1 and treasure isle for example. Not sure if they also used a different kind of bass instrument then. Recording was also propably made using just a few microphones placed correctly in the studio.

I don't do Reggae sounds, but a flat response is only great in theory and in the studio. Once you turn up the volume, flat sounds terrible and nasal. Humans hear the midrange best, and they also hear when midrange is struggling. You can take a bass bin and bounce it off of a wall, and also groundloaded to maximize reflections, and people think it sounds awesome. If the midrange is being overdriven a little, or bouncing off of the back wall too much, and the sound is effed. People are more critical of mid. For bass, they just like to feel powerful vibrations that their home speakers can't do. For treble, if you hit 10 kHz and no further, most people won't even notice.

Edited by b grade - 26 June 2015 at 2:47pm

b grade wrote: I don't do Reggae sounds, but a flat response is only great in theory and in the studio. Once you turn up the volume, flat sounds terrible and nasal. Humans hear the midrange best, and they also hear when midrange is struggling. You can take a bass bin and bounce it off of a wall, and also groundloaded to maximize reflections, and people think it sounds awesome. If the midrange is being overdriven a little, or bouncing off of the back wall too much, and the sound is effed. People are more critical of mid. For bass, they just like to feel powerful vibrations that their home speakers can't do. For treble, if you hit 10 kHz and no further, most people won't even notice. If you make better mids, and have more headroom they will sound better. That does not mean that the frequency balance of the sound person's preference will now sound better if they have way louder mids. It just means that the mids CAN be louder if the rest of the system can keep up.

yep, agree wid dat