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SBC 
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 Posted: 10 May 2012 at 11:57pm |
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getting too technical... get a driver and listen to it.
that colour coded list is just not right since PD186 and Fane XB have come up red...
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RealitySound
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Posted: 11 May 2012 at 12:02am |
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Only going by Lev's Guidelines.-
Here's quick way to choose decent "ferrite" scoop driver for scoop. Ignore manufacturer's sensitivity figure, only consider reference efficiency, expressed as figure between 1.8 - 4.0. Forget all Eminence, Paudio, Cerwin Vega, Peavey drivers Forget all drivers where Xmax < 7mm Forget all drivers with VC diam < 4" Forget all drivers where ref efficiency (no) < 1.8 Forget all drivers with BL < 24 (Except PD186), or Qes > 0.35, or Qts > 0.35, or Vas > 360, or Fs > 35hz Its not engraved into stone, and everyone is entitled to there own opinions. |
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levyte357
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Posted: 11 May 2012 at 12:24am |
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EDITED:
Edited by levyte357 - 11 May 2012 at 1:30am |
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"Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy".
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RealitySound
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Posted: 11 May 2012 at 12:26am |
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I guess I'll leave it just how it is then.
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Posted: 11 May 2012 at 12:55am |
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As this is gonna end up as a long-lived thread (at least I'd hope) it does seem a shame to call up some arbitary list where known good sounding and in my experience bloody loud drivers are excluded like the Fane Xb and PD186 (as Saul pointed out) just for the sake of fitting some silly made up rules.
Most of the scoop rigs I have ever heard loaded with the big man drivers sounded worse than those with some of the ones which 'don't work' according to this list. They probably weren't as loud but, lets remember SPL is more important than a nice sound. |
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Don't test the champignon sound
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RealitySound
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Posted: 11 May 2012 at 1:06am |
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I think that's what this thread is all about. I think some drivers might sound great, but then others might sound awesome, others brutal. All depends what your looking for and what your willing to pay, and what kind of scoop your dropping it in. I think Lev's guidelines for the list (correct me if I'm wrong) are more for Brutal SPL. If u simply must BLOW the other sound away.
The Fane XB was only .08 off. I mean really. Wouldn't stop me from buying one. A good driver by any means. Edited by RealitySound - 11 May 2012 at 1:10am |
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levyte357
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Posted: 11 May 2012 at 1:30am |
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Maybe I should delete my "suggestions" then, and RealitySounds, maybe you should delete all your lists, and people can just buy whatever driver, the various salesmen here are ramming down peoples throats, because they are getting trade deals on them, as opposed to being what people need.
Then wonder why it sounded crap in their scoop just before blowing. Or why another sound can batter them with half as many scoops. People keep telling me to keep stuff to myself, and I'm now seeing why. Edited by levyte357 - 11 May 2012 at 1:51am |
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Posted: 11 May 2012 at 1:41am |
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I dunno. I mean there are members on here who have playing sound with scoops for years, and newbies who want to try their hand at building some scoops. I initially started this thread to help people who haven't a clue on which driver to buy, as I once was. I wish this thread was up a year or two ago when I was trying to get 'orange juice- squeezing some lemons.' Dropping complete wrong crap drivers in good scoop designs and getting crap out and wondering why. So if this thread helps anyone then it was worth starting.
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Posted: 11 May 2012 at 1:50am |
When trying to help people results in headache, insults, stress, time to excuse yourself, and let people find things out the expensive way on their own. |
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RealitySound
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Posted: 11 May 2012 at 1:55am |
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Some of us on here appreciate the advice!
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Posted: 11 May 2012 at 8:49pm |
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Thinking about building some scoops. Should I focus on Rogs design or are there some others to pay attention to?
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Posted: 11 May 2012 at 9:06pm |
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Lev....ur insight is appreciloved so dont let this stop u from helping people who really seek it.
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