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King Simeon
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Posted: 15 March 2012 at 7:09pm |
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I think your living in your memory... I know things were very different back in the day, but I assure you it was not as you think, if you are saying everything was pure and clean. Maybe purer and cleaner. I'll even be cheeky and say you urself may have been a bit young and naive if you think things were so perfect... In reality it comes down to a loss of time... and a refusal to let go. Time is always passing, hence saying 'sad' in reflection on ur comment.. Sad because you don't seem to be positive about a lot and drawing so much attention to badness, (which is always around). As far as I know... that is an attitude that should be ironed out with a little reasoning... maybe thats what you are missing..? I figure the US is quite different... that is where I see the 'twisted' part, of being so certain of things like you are the last stand having to defend against things. Setting the example would be better... but it is not a good example to come across as angry and beligarent... it's rare anyone pays much mind to that attitude.
Times have certainly changed, but it is more important to be a positive influence and example to others. I know I've patronised you a fair bit in the reply, but it's better to reason about things, rather than to simply oppose. |
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Ras Elder
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Posted: 16 March 2012 at 8:35am |
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Greetings Humble, which house of Rastafari has promoted a session in which activities being mentioned has taken place? I am not talking individual man. Only the TTI to my knowledge promote officially. Again, 2,000 years under the Pope, and dem cover up abuse and other tings to this day. 80 years since His Majesty crowning, 1,900 years Rastafari have to grow and improve, but a moment in time. Be as the wise men seh "fish don't get caught if.........." just do your OWN ting neatly!
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Afrikon_Blood
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Posted: 18 March 2012 at 12:31am |
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Greetings Earl,
hoping all is well with Thee I
@Simeon, memory is simply a recording medium of events already taken place. These events are defined as history.
During the 1920's in Harlem New York, there was a man that once said. " A Person without knowledge of their history, is like a true without Roots!!" I assume you know this man i am talking about.
And I consider myself a Tree with much grounded Roots. I walk and talk and live roots, thus why i am that i am.
If i did not love my roots, then i would not say anything, and i would not talk against things. Its out of love why i chant.
Everyone knows the spirit of roots have left the dances of today. just plain facts.
Yes, iam far more of a conservative when it comes to Roots, compared to the liberal minded society thats running tings now. So liberals will forever chant me for not accecpting the change and been one with them. Thats their story and i move by my story.
Its apparent that segregration is truely a must in regards to this new roots era, I cannot stop it, nor will i attempt to stop it. But i shall always express my views on the matter . If that is what defines me as "living in memory." then so it ah go..
As i said, i am a tree with grounded roots and will never be swayed from it.
If reasoning is required on it more then feel free to message me.
As earl said, i shall flow with my roots "Neatly"
Wadada
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Posted: 18 March 2012 at 1:03am |
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Segregation? But you love racial segregation according to previous posts! Bet you were gutted when Apartheid fell in South Africa then eh? ![]() Come to London or any major UK city and you will see that the vast majority of young people do not concern themselves with ethnic segregation, and in fact draw on influences of many cultures in their doings. That is why the UK music scene is so vibrant and diverse. I see this as a positive thing and enriches all our lives, and it does not mean that everything is reduced to the lowest common denominator. Yes the slave trade was a terrible thing although it was perpetuated by a tiny minority; Claiming that all white people are descendants of slave masters is clearly ridiculous. It's far more likely for native Britons today to be a descendants of servants, peasants, farm workers and labourers who were also exploited by the ruling class of their time. These people didn't invent the slave trade. Ultimately you're problem is that you cannot see beyond a person's skin colour, and that in itself is racism.
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Posted: 18 March 2012 at 1:29am |
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ok sir
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Posted: 19 March 2012 at 8:56pm |
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erm........... think about it Akrikon Blood....... what is anyone reading this supposed to think?! show some Love and Respect. you JUDGE me for the colour of my skin NOT by my deeds...... im pretty sure that means you are racist. at least have the balls to admit it. Indeed .... i will stay on my path........ your path doesnt sound that great |
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Posted: 19 March 2012 at 11:25pm |
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A black person as a racist!!! wow!! Since when doe a black person that defend and uplifts his culture is a racist? Well according to your logic, biggup to all the racist like Marcus Garvey, Malcom X, Steve Biko, MLK, Nat Turner, Paul Bogle, Dr babara swan, Winnie Mendela, Desmond Tutu, Norma Wade, Dr, Khallid Muhammad. To name a few. For they where all defenders of their culture and their story, who are now defined by you and your kind as Racist. last month in Nebraska, there was a black family that moved into an all white neighborhood for better schooling for their children. According to cnn on the daughters third day at school, she was raped by 4 white boys in her class, and then a white swastika was spray painted over her face. Maybe you can send them an email and tell them they they are been racist cause they been talking about it on the news and they been defending their blackness when everyone else wants them out of this white community. You sir stay in your alice and wonderland and play your yadda music. I gladly stick on frontline defending my creed. if that means i am racist then tuff. But i represent my blackrace to the fullness. just like asian defend their story, indian defend their story, yet they are not called racist. But i will never forget!! Africa for Africans, Europe for Europeans, India for Indians, Asian for Asians right down the line. |
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Posted: 20 March 2012 at 9:38am |
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Malcolm X distanced himself from the Nation of Islam when he realised they were just a black man's KKK. Steve Biko fought against segregation and apartheid and for a united South Africa. Martin Luther King was clearly for multiculturalism and against racism of any kind. Obviously racist attacks like the ones you mention are terrible and everyone on this forum would condemn them. But again, you only see it perpetuated by "white people", hence you blame all white people for the actions of a minority. If you want "Africa for the Africans" you only have to look at Idi Amin when he persecuted Asians and removed 60,000 of them from the country because they weren't African. How about that for a racist? Sounds like "Germany for the Germans", and we all know that story.
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Posted: 20 March 2012 at 3:06pm |
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Its obvious many dont overstand the context of the word sound of Afrika for the Afrikan...at home and abroad, which Garvey stated many years ago. It means that Afrika is the HOME of the Blackman and Wombman no matter where on earth one may be. Im sure u know/read/heard how the Afrikan as of 500 yrs ago were scattered all over the west..and im sure u know/red/
heard that when european countries colonized and divided up Afrika, they also put in place a govt, ecomonical system, religion, etc. Now when u hear this call for Afrika for the Afrikans it simply means its our home and we want full control of it and its resources. It does not mean that no other races can exist there. It means that these other races will not be allowed to control the vital aspects of any Afrika nation. We as Afrikans have seen the outcome in the past of letting others control Afrikan nations and im sure no european or other nation would allow Afrikans to fully control it without a conflict. Afrika is the Blackmans land....the late Sugar Minott sung that in one of his tunes....are u saying he was racist too? Furthermore ur reasoning of the Nation of Islam is false....i have yet to see the Nation lynch any Europeans like the KKK lynched and terrorizes my forefathers. The nation is primarily non-violent unless its in self defense. Can u say the same about the KKK. I find it odd tht u would make such a claim thats so ridiculus!! As HIM Haile Sellassie I stated so well "WE AFRIKANS WILL FIGHT IF WE FIND IT NECESSARY" for the liberation and freedom of All Afrikans at home and Abroad. We will not cease from this mission no matter what anyone says. Afrika is for InI but dont mean that others cant dwell in our home but we wont sit back and let them control our home!!! Selah! Edited by Prince Zahir - 20 March 2012 at 5:05pm |
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Father-Francis
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Posted: 20 March 2012 at 3:54pm |
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Prince Z the I should not cut that speech short the whole part of the speech should read to overstand what the man said , I have copy pasted it and also put the linkup , I´will not say much , cause I am no better than anyone else and am not here to judge no one ,
On the question of racial discrimination, the Addis Ababa Conference taught, to those who will learn, this further lesson: That until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned: That until there are no longer first-class and second class citizens of any nation; That until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes; That until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all without regard to race; That until that day, the dream of lasting peace and world citizenship and the rule of international morality will remain but a fleeting illusion, to be pursued but never attained; And until the ignoble and unhappy regimes that hold our brothers in Angola, in Mozambique and in South Africa in subhuman bondage have been toppled and destroyed; Until bigotry and prejudice and malicious and inhuman self-interest have been replaced by understanding and tolerance and good-will; Until all Africans stand and speak as free beings, equal in the eyes of all men, as they are in the eyes of Heaven; Until that day, the African continent will not know peace. We Africans will fight, if necessary, and we know that we shall win, as we are confident in the victory of good over evil.
The United Nations has done much, both directly and indirectly
to speed the disappearance of discrimination and oppression from the earth.
Without the opportunity to focus world opinion on Africa and Asia which this
Organization provides, the goal, for many, might still lie ahead, and the struggle
would have taken far longer. For this, we are truly grateful. http://www.nazret.com/history/him_un.php Bless |
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Prince Zahir
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Posted: 20 March 2012 at 4:57pm |
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CONTEXT, CONTEXT, CONTEXT IS THE WORD OF THE DAY. Whos point of view was HIM speaking from? The Afrikan! Look very closely at the speech (red words) and WHEN and WHY HIM said what He said. It was due to the treatment AFRICANS were receiving from Colonial European powers. Italy's aggression towards Ethiopia sparked this reasoning by HIM not Afrikans aggression towards Europeans. Why does he specifically mention Afrikan nations only???...and closed by saying WE AFRIKANS....He didnt say WE THE PEOPLE of the earth. This speech was directed towards the oppressors of Afrikans, which HIM defended on all fronts. Lets not take HIM words out of context here, and try to apply them outside of the context in which they were said. Too many times non-Afrikans use this speech without overstanding the WHO, WHAT, WHEN , and WHY it was being said. HAILE SELLASSIE I Guidance & Itection. Edited by Prince Zahir - 20 March 2012 at 5:06pm |
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Posted: 20 March 2012 at 5:30pm |
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So you would oppose the election of Obama in the USA, a primarily 'white' country, because he is not white then? Or rather, do you mean you oppose colonialism, occupation, imperialism? In which case (the latter), most people would agree!
You mention 'context' in your reply to Father-Francis. Well Sugar Minott sung "Africa is the Blackmans Land" with regards to the occupation of the colonial forces, apartheid in South Africa etc. Again, most of the British public also have the same sentiment. However, given that Africa is no longer occupied by Europeans and African nations have self-determination, it doesn't make sense to raise these demands 20+ years after the fact? It's like you're living in the past!
Perhaps the Nation of Islam have not carried out public lynching like the KKK, but they certainly espouse race hate. They oppose inter-racial pro-creation, now why is that? Because they are black supremacists, and believe that it will "water down" black racial purity. The exact same thing goes for the British National Party, a thoroughly fascist organisation that opposes inter-racial pro-creation for the same reason, that it will "water down" white racial purity. They are just two sides of the same hateful coin.
Yes, well let us put this in context! The context of colonialism and occupation that existed 50 years ago... that no longer exists! As far as I know, all African nations are self-determined and politically independent of their former colonial powers. If we assume that the political ideology that you are rather inarticulately expressing is for all nations to have the right to self-determination, then I would agree! If you believe that all Africa's problems will be solved if all non-Africans were removed from positions of political/economic power in Africa, then I would deem you extremely naive and ignorant: You will just replace the white capitalist with the black capitalist. Workers will still be exploited, but by black bosses rather than white bosses. You completely ignore the class nature of society and assume that the interests of the black labourer and the black millionaire businessman are the same.
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